Airstream Chat Room Airstream Links Campground & Product Reviews Airstream Classifieds Airstream Articles Blogs Photo Gallery Forum Listings Portal - Home Page

Go Back   Airstream Forums > Airstream Restoration, Repair & Parts Forums > Interior Restoration Forum > Furnaces, Heaters, Fireplaces & Air Conditioning




Check out our new sister site AirstreamCentral.com. To contribute an article click here.


Quick Links
- Forum Listings
- Register - it's FREE!
- View Member's Map
- Airstream Articles
- "Live" Chat Room
- View Classifieds
- Post a Classified
- Airstream @ eBay
- Upcoming Rallies
   - Add A Rally
- Rally Discussions
- Repair Discussions
- Search Forums
- Member List
- AIR # Directory
- Member Search
- Profile Photos
- Airstream Photo
- Airstream Links
- Fun & Games
- WBCCI Websites
- WBCCI Unit Forums
- Courtesy Parking
- Campgrounds
- Support & FAQs
- Community Policies
- Helpers Needed




Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-23-2006, 09:32 PM   #1
clancy_boy
Rivet Master

clancy_boy's Avatar

Profile:  2003 22' International CCD
1966 17' Caravel
Kiln , Mississippi
Posts: 1,887
Images: 8

Portable AC units ?????

Help with an issue, Anyone used the portable AC units in their vintage AS?

I like the lines of my Caravel and DO NOT WANT TO PUT A BIG BOX ON TOP. This said, I like the comfort of an air conditioned room when sleeping. I have seen some of you use the portable AC units and have them free standing in the bathroom. How do you vent the heated exhaust and where? Does the unit cool well? What models are you using? Where did you get it? This is a short fused issue since I will be using the Caravel this weekend at Disney. I can put up with the heat but ----------- - well you know what else follows.......... . So, if you have info please post. My wife says thank you in advance.
__________________
Michael and Tina BZ
1966 17' CARAVEL
2003 22' INTERNATIONAL CCD
WBCCI 30962

><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>
¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>
clancy_boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2006, 09:44 PM   #2
Silvertwinkie
Aluminut

Silvertwinkie's Avatar
Profile:  2004 25' Safari
Northern Suburbs , Illinois
Posts: 9,367

I've used 3 different makes of the units you're talking about. They are at best marginal IMHO.

The heat they throw out is substantial and venting will be needed for sure....not sure what you'd do in and Airstream. In some cases the unit would run constantly and, in humid conditions, the tanks would fill in a very short period of time. We had to hook a drain hose to them, otherwise they'd shut down.

Bottom line, they were more problematic than they were helpful in our case....your mileage may vary.
__________________
Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq and millions of others are by far the most popular with about 70 million machines in use worldwide. Macintosh fans note that cockroaches are far more numerous than humans and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form. -NY Times 1991
Silvertwinkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2006, 09:44 PM   #3
rebel beck
Rivet Master

rebel beck's Avatar
Profile:  1975 31' Sovereign
Oxford , Mississippi
Posts: 874
Images: 35

Yes Mike you are going to have to check into this, so you and your wife can make a trip up here to Sardis in July.


Becky
rebel beck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2006, 09:50 PM   #4
overlander63
Rivet Masher

overlander63's Avatar
Profile:  1974 31' Sovereign
L.A. , California
Posts: 13,194

One of the forum members concocted something that stood in the main doorway, through a piece of (?)plywood(?) and vented outdoors through the main door opening.I am not sure how well it worked, and haven't heard back from them.
I would imagine an air conditioner mounted on the floor. with the hot and wet end sticking out through a plywood door, would be better than nothing, but it would sure look like, well, umm, it would look like it belonged at Disney World...
__________________
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2006, 09:56 PM   #5
clancy_boy
Rivet Master

clancy_boy's Avatar

Profile:  2003 22' International CCD
1966 17' Caravel
Kiln , Mississippi
Posts: 1,887
Images: 8

I'm looking to avoid the window units for now but have thought of using the utility access door for an external mount. Just no time to build or design the thing for this weekend (and yse, the look would be .....). I have seen the smaller freestanding vertical units just standing and draining directly in the shower drain.

I'll keep looking.......
__________________
Michael and Tina BZ
1966 17' CARAVEL
2003 22' INTERNATIONAL CCD
WBCCI 30962

><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>
¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>
clancy_boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2006, 09:59 PM   #6
Melody Ranch
Rivet Master

Melody Ranch's Avatar
Profile:  1966 17' Caravel
Currently Looking...
1947 22' Liner
Valley View , Texas
Posts: 743
Images: 18

low profile

Same opinion on the box on top of a Caravel. I am pulling the Coleman this week and putting on a low profile....Penguin or Carrier....they have a 7.5 to 9.5 height. Has anyone actually put the water drain tube over to the vent tube for a clean installation? Have fun at Disney
Melody Ranch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2006, 10:06 PM   #7
clancy_boy
Rivet Master

clancy_boy's Avatar

Profile:  2003 22' International CCD
1966 17' Caravel
Kiln , Mississippi
Posts: 1,887
Images: 8

Quote:
Originally Posted by rebel beck
Yes Mike you are going to have to check into this, so you and your wife can make a trip up here to Sardis in July.


Becky
SARDIS in July???????? I just got home from Dubai, I know what heat is. I actually melted the soles of my tennis shoes on the steel deck because I stood still too long. If I have AC - I can go anywhere....... Help
__________________
Michael and Tina BZ
1966 17' CARAVEL
2003 22' INTERNATIONAL CCD
WBCCI 30962

><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>
¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>
clancy_boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2006, 10:07 PM   #8
overlander63
Rivet Masher

overlander63's Avatar
Profile:  1974 31' Sovereign
L.A. , California
Posts: 13,194

Michael, you could CAREFULLY remove the front window, and temporarily install a window air conditioner in the front window of the Caravel for this weekend, so you will be cool, and consider your options. In the front, it wouldn't look so, umm, Rube Goldberg-esque. There ARE other options, just not something you can get done in a week.
There are the split units, where you could mount the compressor and condensor outside, behind the propane tanks, and mount the evaporator and blower inside, with a small hole to run the refrigerant lines.
__________________
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2006, 10:14 PM   #9
clancy_boy
Rivet Master

clancy_boy's Avatar

Profile:  2003 22' International CCD
1966 17' Caravel
Kiln , Mississippi
Posts: 1,887
Images: 8

Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
Michael, you could CAREFULLY remove the front window, and temporarily install a window air conditioner in the front window of the Caravel for this weekend, so you will be cool, and consider your options. In the front, it wouldn't look so, umm, Rube Goldberg-esque. There ARE other options, just not something you can get done in a week.
There are the split units, where you could mount the compressor and condensor outside, behind the propane tanks, and mount the evaporator and blower inside, with a small hole to run the refrigerant lines.
Yep, we use the split units on our "van's" that we work in aboard ship. They even have quick connects that allow us to remove the external units if we need to do a quick swap. There is alot of computers in a 20 foot CONEX and they have to remain cool. The split units are pricy$$$$$$$$ but are a solid option for future installation. BTW the units we use are nearly damage proof, except when a forklift drives a fork into it, real mess.
__________________
Michael and Tina BZ
1966 17' CARAVEL
2003 22' INTERNATIONAL CCD
WBCCI 30962

><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>
¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>
clancy_boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2006, 06:56 AM   #10
eljay
4 Rivet Member

eljay's Avatar
Profile:  Rural, blink and you'll miss it , Missouri
Posts: 417
Images: 5

InsideOut used a portable last year when she went to Springfield, MO for the international rally. I can't find the picture of her set-up. She vented the unit through one of the windows using a piece of plexiglass to replace the glass. You might PM her.

I have a 66 and want to do "something else" for AC, too.
__________________
Not knowing enough to be afraid...

Eljay

2004 Chevy Silverado 1 ton, Duramax Diesel
eljay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2006, 07:16 AM   #11
87MH
Rivet Master

87MH's Avatar
Profile:  1978 31' Sovereign
Katy (West Planet Houston) , Texas
Posts: 1,733
Images: 162

Thumbs Down on the Roll Around

Quote:
Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
...Has anyone actually put the water drain tube over to the vent tube for a clean installation? ...
I spent a lot of time in '03 installing a GE rollabout in the cabin of the 345 - with dismal results...

I ran the water (with a "Quick Connect" and a valve on each side of the contection) to the water drain line of the front AC...that was the easy part.

The Exhaust hose was routed under the couch and exited "down" just in front of the LPG tank....both the water line and the air exhaust utilized the front door under the couch for access.

The resulting cooling was of so little benefit I don't use it at all any more.

IMHO I would not attempt to install a rollabout portable....

An associate of mine has a "split unit" in his spa room - works great. While I have no working knowledge of these types of units, I would be inclined to try one in an AS.
__________________
Dennis

"Suck it up, spend the bucks, do it right the first time."

WBCCI # 1113
AirForums #1737

Trailer '78 31' Sovereign Photos:'78 Sovereign Rebuild
Motorhome '87 Classic Motorhome Saga
87MH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2006, 07:35 AM   #12
lewster
Rivet Master
Commercial Vendor

lewster's Avatar
Profile:  2006 19' International CCD
Marco Island, FL , Hood River, OR
Posts: 3,135

Clancy,

I use a portable room A/C unit in my house as an emergency back-up when the power is out and I'm running on generator power. It works very well in a 17' X 22' room. The exhaust goes thru a door with a spacer that I made (4" hose like a dryer) and the design evaporates most of the water before it hits the drain hose. This unit has both a catch tray for the water and a tube to drain the water.....but there usually isn't much. I don't recall the brand but I can get it to you if you like. As I recall, it is the most efficient unit out there and only draws 10.5 amps.

Let me know if you need the info.
__________________
Lew Farber - contact
Certified Master RV Tech

BACK IN THE 'HOOD' FOR A WHILE !!
"Laissez Les Bon Temps Roulez"
www.islandmetalworks.com

WBCCI #1032/VAC (assoc) #1032
AIR # 10325
CHARTER MEMBER: FOUR CORNERS UNIT
lewster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2006, 07:42 AM   #13
Pick
Moderator

Pick's Avatar
Profile:  1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs , Florida
Posts: 2,193
Images: 36

We bought a rollabout last summer for use as a backup, while our whole house unit was being repaired. It removed a lot of moisture from the air. We were constantly emptying the condensate tub. I think the biggest problem is the heat given off by the duct vent is re-radiated into the room the unit is in. That duct gets real hot! If one could keep that vent duct exposure in the room to nil or very small it just might work. When you have 3 or 4 feet exposed, that throws off a lot of heat. You in effect have a heater and airconditioner running in the same room.
__________________
CP 9 miles off Exit 399, I75.
2003 GMC 2500HD 4X4 D/A Ext. Cab
Propane Powered Honda EU2000i
Lots of Hot Sauce!
Air # 283
Pick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2006, 07:34 PM   #14
clancy_boy
Rivet Master

clancy_boy's Avatar

Profile:  2003 22' International CCD
1966 17' Caravel
Kiln , Mississippi
Posts: 1,887
Images: 8

Ok, lets hear it for the Kiln-billy...... Come on - let me have it. I had to cut a 1/2 inch piece of plywood and fit it to the open rear window of the Caravel. Then made a cut out for the small AC window unit. Works, cools the camper - LOOKS LIKE You Know What...... But, this will keep us cool for the trip to Disney and will get us camping for the first time in our "new to us" AS. I will definitely have a permanent solution to this issue before long. Axle first then gas then AC. The list goes on...

Thanks for all your inputs.
__________________
Michael and Tina BZ
1966 17' CARAVEL
2003 22' INTERNATIONAL CCD
WBCCI 30962

><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>
¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>¸.·´¯`·.¸¸><((((º>
clancy_boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Replacing Onan for a portable generator Paul Daugherty Airstream Motorhome Forums 5 09-10-2006 07:10 PM
WBCCI and local Units Stougard WBCCI Forum 58 02-28-2006 09:46 AM
Midwest VAC units Jabba The Rally Zone 3 01-16-2003 06:49 PM
Where is the 2003 National rally going to be? Jim W The Rally Zone 13 08-15-2002 03:50 AM
Roof AC units Questions FrankR Furnaces, Heaters, Fireplaces & Air Conditioning 15 07-22-2002 02:35 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:32 PM.