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07-27-2008, 11:36 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
Fairbanks
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 110
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Nt-22a
I finally got the 1967 Overlander I have been waiting for. Actually waiting on the title for 2 months. I thought the guy put me off because of the low offer I made.
Anyway, just got to checking the furnace and found a NT-22A, that is part of the infamous recall. The AS was a SW rig most of its life and the furnace has little or no use. No rust, ETC. I pulled it out and the high temp hose is cracked and has shrunk. I have searched for the fix, on the recall, and was not able to find a good description or picture to determine if it is something I want to do.
I see the hose is only part of the issue. The flange on the fan housing is shallow and does not make a very good connection even if the hose lines up perfectly. With the newer high temp adhesives and a new, longer hose receiver this could be corrected. The seal around the fan housing is old and cracked as well.
My question is should I even consider getting new hose (high temp marine) and putting the stove into service, with the obvious safety measures, co2 alarm. I have read many were repaired and put into service and were probably used for many years with no problem but I see many people on the forum are of the mind to replace it and don't mess with using it.
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07-27-2008, 02:59 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
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Greeeneville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Safety is the primary issue here. IF the hose can be found and IF it can operate without spewing carbon monoxide into the coach to KILL you. You'll have to be the one that makes these decisions. Don't be dead wrong. JM2$W
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07-27-2008, 03:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,018
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Silverhobby has the best plan
Quote:
Originally Posted by phoney
... I pulled it out and the high temp hose is cracked and has shrunk. I have searched for the fix, on the recall, and was not able to find a good description or picture to determine if it is something I want to do.
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Ya know, this recall has always bothered me. I researched it to death during my Overlander's refurb.
The hose in question is on the low pressure side of the furnace. A leak in it would mean the furnace is drawing air FROM where you are, and NOT blowing noxious fumes INTO the trailer. The high pressure side (burned propane) has no rubber parts in the way to where the gas exits outside. Search this forum long enough, and you will find I am not the first person to state this fact.
Tom Patterson used to, or still does, run a newsgroup where "Dr. Gerald" used to make great posts. He once described his recovery from near-death carbon monoxide poisoning. He did not have a carbon monoxide (CO) detector.
I have my original furnace. I saw surface cracks in the subject hose. I smeared high-temp RTV on the hose. I employ a calibrated CO monitor. I have yet to have a problem.
But you should replace your furnace if you feel the least bit uncomfortable with it.
Tom
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07-27-2008, 05:21 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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REPLACE IT !!!!!!!
A few hundred bucks is not worth your life
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07-27-2008, 05:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 23' Safari
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 699
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I had the same furnace and just chucked it. I'm camping with some irreplaceable cargo, though, also known as "my family" and am not willing to take the kind of crazy chances I took back in my fickle youth.... a forty year old furnace is just not something I'm comfortable sleeping with...especially one that was recalled decades ago..
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07-27-2008, 06:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,018
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I'm waiting to hear what a Certified Master RV Tech has to say...
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewster
REPLACE IT !!!!!!!
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What? Did you say something?
Tom
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07-27-2008, 07:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
, / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lewster
REPLACE IT !!!!!!!
A few hundred bucks is not worth your life
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lew, tell us how you really feel about it!
i agree, if you want to take a risk, walk on the roof.
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07-27-2008, 08:39 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1963 28' Ambassador
Smiths Grove
, Kentucky
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 406
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OK, this thread is making me a little nervous. I have a 63 model, what should I be looking for to see if I have one of the recalled furnaces? We have not used the furnace yet but plan to this fall.
63silver
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07-27-2008, 08:53 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
Fairbanks
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 110
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Go to this web site and you will see the only photo I saw. Where Tom points out the difference is where you should look for a short rubber hose between the fan and the main housing.
1967 Airstream Overlander
He also list's the model affected.
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07-27-2008, 08:55 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
Fairbanks
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 110
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Does anyone know what the corrective action Suburban took on this recall?
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07-27-2008, 10:57 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1972 25' Tradewind
Madison
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 396
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Bad Odds!
Why take a chance on a 30 year old furnace. Too many things other things can go wrong. Many parts such as heat exchangers deteriorate over time. Speaking for myself, I wouldn't use it. A couple hundred bucks is cheap when you consider what may happen.
I ditched my old furnace when I got my AS a few years ago, just because of age. It was my first major project. I have access to a high grade CO detector (freind is a Steamfitter/Control Specialist) and I did not even bother to check it out. The first thing that entered my mind is 30+ years of corrosion on the heat exhanger. When Propane burns, water is one of the bi-products. There is always some residual on the exchanger. The exchangers are generally nothing more than high grade sheet steel. To the best of my knowledge they are not designed with a 30 year life in mind. 20 maybe, but 30? How often was it serviced? Even if it is good at the moment, an exchnager that old could perforate at any time.
As was said before....DON'T DO IT!
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07-28-2008, 07:31 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
Fairbanks
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 110
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Thanks to all! I am a believer. The furnace goes.
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07-28-2008, 10:36 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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07-28-2008, 02:20 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
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Greeeneville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2005
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phoney, It will be money well spent in the long term. Many happy camping experiences await.... Enjoy...
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07-28-2008, 02:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomW
Ya know, this recall has always bothered me. I researched it to death during my Overlander's refurb.
The hose in question is on the low pressure side of the furnace. A leak in it would mean the furnace is drawing air FROM where you are, and NOT blowing noxious fumes INTO the trailer. The high pressure side (burned propane) has no rubber parts in the way to where the gas exits outside. Search this forum long enough, and you will find I am not the first person to state this fact.
Tom Patterson used to, or still does, run a newsgroup where "Dr. Gerald" used to make great posts. He once described his recovery from near-death carbon monoxide poisoning. He did not have a carbon monoxide (CO) detector.
I have my original furnace. I saw surface cracks in the subject hose. I smeared high-temp RTV on the hose. I employ a calibrated CO monitor. I have yet to have a problem.
But you should replace your furnace if you feel the least bit uncomfortable with it.
Tom
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Tom,
The list is still alive and well. The sign up page is here: Vintage Airstream List Index Page
There are different members of that list and I find them to be quite valuable. BTW, I know that I am not the only one on Tom's List who is a contributer here.
Bill
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