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Old 03-10-2011, 02:01 PM   #1
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Dometic Penguin or Coleman Polar Cub for 1967 Caravel??

Can those of you with experience changing out your AC help here? I am debating whether to use the 9000 btu Coleman Polar Cub with a built in drain hook up or the Dometic Penguin 11,000 btu which needs a pan from Airstream. The Coleman is slightly cheaper. Should I use a wall thermostat or is it unnecessary? What's your recommendation??
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Old 03-10-2011, 02:18 PM   #2
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I'm not familiar with the Polar Cub. We have used Dometics now for several years and have had no problems. What type is currently on your trailer? If you can get a similar replacement it may be easier on the installation.

We had wall thermostats on our current and previous trailer. Before that we didn't. I prefer the thermostat because it maintains a more constant temperature.
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Old 03-10-2011, 02:26 PM   #3
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I have the original Armstrong Bay Breeze on it now. Looking to install an entirely new unit.
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Dometic makes a drain kit that is reportedly cheaper than the Airstream one.

Check the threads on changing from an Armstrong as it's involved.
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I have owned both Coleman and Dometic and I will tell you that the fan in the Dometic makes twice the noise of the Coleman. It is so loud it drives us nuts.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:39 PM   #6
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That post about the fan is the kind of thing that is priceless. So is the Dometic that you have that has the loud fan a Penguin????
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Is your Dometic that has the loud fan a Penguin??
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I thought the post was regarding a Dometic Penguin, therefore I was refering to a Penguin. Did I go off course somehow?
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Old 03-12-2011, 06:53 AM   #9
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I was trying to compare the Dometic Penguin with the Coleman Polar Cub. So, you are saying the Penguin is noisy. That's good to know.
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Dometic makes an auxiliary drip kit that will eliminate the need for a drain pan. I use these on the larger motor homes that use internal tubing for condensate drains so the roof stays dry.

The Dometic part number is 3107688.016 and adds 2 catch cups to the drain holes in the pan, tubing to join them and all fasteners and clamps as well as a second bottom gasket that raises the unit slightly so the new drain cups will clear the roof.

As far as noise, remember that both units have the evaporator blower right above the ceiling grill, so you WILL be hearing a good bit of noise. Both are equally noisy, unless someone gets an actual dB reading and can compare the noise levels.
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My husband & son installed a Dometic Penguin in my daughter's Argosy last summer. There were issues from the get go with an electronic thermostat that could only be fixed through a dealer. It took forever for them to figure out what was wrong with it. That aside, the newer units (unlike my old A/C) turn completely on/off when they reach the temperature desired. That means the whole fan turns off too. So, when you're sleeping, the unit comes on (not a quite noise) and then, once you're used to the noise & sleeping again, it shuts down. (I know all this because I heard all the complaining from her!). I'd much rather have continuous noise where the fan runs continuously & the compressor comes on as needed. Just my two cents!
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Have maybe 300 hours on my Dometic 15K heat pump and could not be happier. It replaced an older coleman. The fan can be set to run continuously with the compressor kicking in and out, it cools and heats well, they ALL make fan noise, and it boils down to service, installation, and price.............God bless......Dennis
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My husband & son installed a Dometic Penguin in my daughter's Argosy last summer. There were issues from the get go with an electronic thermostat that could only be fixed through a dealer. It took forever for them to figure out what was wrong with it. That aside, the newer units (unlike my old A/C) turn completely on/off when they reach the temperature desired. That means the whole fan turns off too. So, when you're sleeping, the unit comes on (not a quite noise) and then, once you're used to the noise & sleeping again, it shuts down. (I know all this because I heard all the complaining from her!). I'd much rather have continuous noise where the fan runs continuously & the compressor comes on as needed. Just my two cents!
Becky,

If you have the Comfort Control Center (CCC) electronic thermostat with your Penguin, there should be 3 fan settings (some units have 4) that are low, (medium) high and auto. In the auto mode, the fan and the compressor both stop when the thermostat is satisfied. In the high/low setting, the fan continues to run and the compressor cycles as needed according to the ambient temperature in the room and the setting on the CCC.

If have the CCC and it doesn't work like this, you need a new CCC, as yours is defective and should be replaced. And BTW, I am a factory authorized Dometic service center.
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A couple random thoughts-

The Polar Cub may be able (no guarantees) to run on 2000 Honda inverter generator. I've seen reports of success with that combo. The Penguin has higher starting and running current draw.

The Penguin, in my opinion, is the most attractive and sleek looking of all the roof air units. I'd buy it for this reason alone. They look great on all the RVs they're installed on.

Both Penguin and Cub units I owned used the built in thermostat, and both work well.

I've had both the noise is similar. Rather innocuous white noise from both. But if one is quieter, its probably the Coleman.
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