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07-20-2017, 09:19 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1975 Argosy 26
Normandy Park
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13 minutes to boil water
I'm curious if my oven and stove are operating correctly. I used my Corning 9 cup glass percolator and timed how long it takes to get it to a rolling boil....13 minutes as it turns out.
The flame doesn't really adjust to a high or low setting, just a constant blue flame.
Does that seem right or do I have an. Issue like a bad regulator ?
Thx
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07-21-2017, 05:01 AM
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Check the gas pressure at the burner. It should be around 11"wc.
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07-21-2017, 05:04 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
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Is the stove 40 years old? Do your other propane appliances work correctly, and, more importantly, do they all function well at the same time? If not maybe the regulator, or perhaps the valve on that one burner.
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07-21-2017, 07:17 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1975 Argosy 26
Normandy Park
, Washington
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Yes, the stove is original to my 75 Argosy.
The refrigerator works, the other stovetop burners work as well. The one thing that does not is the main burner in the oven. The pilot comes on but I can't get the main to kick in after the pilot is lit.
How do you check the pressure at the burner?
Thx all.
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07-21-2017, 07:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1982 31' Airstream 310
champaign
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We use a metal tea pot boiler for coffee, it does take quite awhile for it to boil on the stove. I have a new regulator also. Might just be the nature of the beast.
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07-21-2017, 07:47 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
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My whistling tea kettle takes less than 5 minutes to boil a half full pot.
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07-21-2017, 07:48 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
, Florida
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It all depends on how much water, the altitude you are heating the water (where you are located) and the heat radiation.
Without any amounts, gas stoves - 8-10 minutes, induction 4-6, micro - 3 or so for a broad comparison.
You could run an experiment by using a cup or two cups of water and try it. Thirteen minutes does not sound like too long to me unless it is very little water. Your 9-10 cup pot has how many cups of water? It looks like about 4-5 cups, maybe even more.
I found an poster online that says, on a stove (type not mentioned, LOL) about 2 minutes per cup average with room temp water.
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07-21-2017, 08:29 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1975 Argosy 26
Normandy Park
, Washington
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I poured the boilng water into a measuring cup, it held 6 cups of water
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07-21-2017, 08:36 AM
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1994 30' Excella
alexandria
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I think the burners on our stove are small in regards to BTU output. Some of the newer stoves seem to have one large burner.
I checked the gas pressure last season, everything works as it should but it takes a while to get the initial boil when perculating coffee or boiling water for noodles.
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07-21-2017, 09:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
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Everyone is dancing around the real issue.
I've never seen a stove where you couldn't adjust the flame from tiny to scary.
I think you have a problem with the stove or gas line.
Is it the same with all burners? Or just one? If all, then the pressure at the inlet is too low.
Do other gas things work okay? Water heater, furnace? Maybe the supply pressure is too low at the regulator.
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07-21-2017, 09:10 AM
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Journeyman
2016 25' International
Amherst
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Apr 2016
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Tanks full?
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07-21-2017, 12:13 PM
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2 Rivet Member
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You're trying to boil water in something (glass) with very high insulating properties. I would try using a thin gauge metal pot.
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07-21-2017, 12:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollysdad
Everyone is dancing around the real issue.
I've never seen a stove where you couldn't adjust the flame from tiny to scary.
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While it is a portable stove, our Jet Boil Base camp will adjust from "tiny to scary". At scary if will boil 6 cups in the 9" pan that came with it (special pan) in about 2 minutes.
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07-21-2017, 03:17 PM
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Link’s Travels
2002 25' Safari
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LINCOLN
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Boiling Water
When I was at Alumapalooza in Jackson Center the service dept came out to our trailer and did a check on our propane inlet under the stove and determined that my propane regulator was then or soon needing replacement. We had low propane pressure going to the stove and as a result it was hard to start both the burners and the oven. It seems they had a pressure gauge either on or near the regulator and someone was also in the trailer with some type of hookup on the range. Wish I could do a better job of describing just what they did. Sorry!!
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07-21-2017, 03:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
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Well, here is a study on water boiling. Their amount of water in the test is .75 liters or 3.17 cups. Look how long it took. You will find that the other guy's two minutes per cup is about right. I dont think anything is wrong with your stove.
http://blog.us.schott.com/boiling-po...s-to-the-test/
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07-21-2017, 03:43 PM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodsterinfl
Well, here is a study on water boiling. Their amount of water in the test is .75 liters or 3.17 cups. Look how long it took. You will find that the other guy's two minutes per cup is about right. I dont think anything is wrong with your stove.
http://blog.us.schott.com/boiling-po...s-to-the-test/
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In dismissing gas cooking as less efficient, the author of that article missed a couple of important points about why I prefer cooking with gas, though. It's easier to control the heat applied (visual cues from the flame) and much easier/faster to CHANGE the amount of heat applied. I'm given to understand that induction is even better, but I haven't spent much time using that yet. I was recently given a portable induction cooker and I'm about to order some Magma cookware for the Flying Cloud so I may play with induction some more, but I'm not likely to trade the Wolf range in the house for some electric thing.
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07-21-2017, 03:50 PM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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Or one could just buy a $300 kettle to optimize the gas heat...
https://www.crateandbarrel.com/simpl...=1500673720512
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07-21-2017, 04:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
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LOL well I burn food on my outdoor induction plate when I Camp and I too prefer gas for control. Eggs are my test food. My father tried to cook bacon on my gas grill (he cooks it three times a week or so on electric) and burned it to a crisp- nice black strips. Induction is tricky to me, like microwave cooking but in a pan. I learned how to regulate it now but even then getting the temperature right would take practice. Mine does it by temperature not low med hi.
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07-21-2017, 06:48 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
Sarasota
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Water is hot, coffee is good.
Don't worry be
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07-27-2017, 07:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' Flying Cloud
2016 30' Flying Cloud
Blenheim Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan S
I'm curious if my oven and stove are operating correctly. I used my Corning 9 cup glass percolator and timed how long it takes to get it to a rolling boil....13 minutes as it turns out.
The flame doesn't really adjust to a high or low setting, just a constant blue flame.
Does that seem right or do I have an. Issue like a bad regulator Attachment 290013Attachment 290014?
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The 'standard' test is; low long does it take to boil an 8 oz cup of water?
3-5 minutes is considered ok.
(This test is used for backpacking stoves.)
I'm told, but haven't confirmed that a standard stove test is one quart of water, in 4-5 minutes.
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