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Old 09-02-2009, 11:09 AM   #15
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Okay, okay... So now my mental gears are spinning - I'm a Jeep guy too (TJ, Rubi) and am enamored by the idea of a set-up that would allow me to use the Rubi to tow with.

What did you guys do with the hitch reinforcements? Did you have to add an external trans cooler to compensate for the grades?

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Old 09-02-2009, 04:16 PM   #16
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To strengthen the hitch we add 2.5" 3/16" wall tube from the front side of the existing hitch to a large cross member that is just behind the axle. This tube then transmits the torque from the torsion bars forward.

The TJ is a much shorter wheelbase that the 4door so it is not as stable. Still the overhang is very short which helps a great deal we have made them work in the past and they actually work much better than you might think.

If you have raised yours higher than stock or put on larger tires then you won't be able to use it. If your spare is on the back you will need to take it off when you are towing as you will want the ball very close to the back bumper. The best way to do this is with a welded ball mount which allow you to keep the overhang to an absolute minimum. In "tow vehicle confessional" there are some pictures of welded ball mounts.

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Old 09-02-2009, 04:43 PM   #17
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Andy -

Thanks much for the reply! Cool approach to shift the torque...

I'm definitely above stock height so alas, my delusions of grandeur have been properly put back in check.

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Old 09-11-2009, 11:22 PM   #18
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Hi Andy,
I'll be in the Niagara Region in a week. I'm going to try to get to London to get those mirrors. I checked them out on your website. We just got back from our fall camping trip in Southern Saskatchewan where all the wind turbines are...and one of our clip-on mirrors got blown off and smashed on the highway. Now we really need mirrors! I hope I can make it to London because I also want to see your dealership.

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Wow... great pics. The Jag is especially impressive. I'm thinking that old bicycle logo might just be worth trying....
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Hi Lisa

That will be great We will be happy to show you around. If you like we can tweak your equalizing hitch set up as well. I think you will find your combination is more stable and rides better afterwards.

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Andy...saw one of "your guys" in the Two Harbors city campground the other night. I was remiss in not getting his (their - also wife) names.

Used 34' '95 or 96'...with a Hensley and a Buick crossover. When I saw the Ontario license I told my wife...there is a CanAm set-up. It had hitch strengthening and mods as well as some tweaking to the hitch bar.

Owners are now fulltime and say the set-up works great.

They caught some great weather as they toured along the Lake Superior coast...can be the beginning of winter this time of year if you are unlucky.

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Old 09-12-2009, 12:51 PM   #22
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Hi Tom

I know exactly who you mean, it is a 95 Limited standard body and a 2009 Buick Enclave. We have set up about 20 Enclaves now and everyone sure likes them. Very tight and quiet, great mileage with a smooth ride yet it still has nice precise handling.
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Andy: odd question for you...

how do these buick/gmc vehicles do in reverse?

One issue I have with the prospect of a "non traditional" tow vehicle is that I have to back up a steep hill to park my trailer at my house. Pickup truck has all it can do to do this; I even overheated the transmission, once. Then it dawned on my to try it in low-range (4x4). That pushes it up the hill, backwards, like it isn't even there. Ok, problem solved...for now...forever if I stick w/ conventional 4x4 platform.
I'm intrigued by this cross-over, and convinced that it would pull just fine. What I'm afraid of is that it won't push backwards.
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They will not be nearly as powerful as your truck in low range however they may be somewhere between your low range and 4WD High Range. I can calculate the difference pretty easily. On your dodge which engine, axle ratio and tire size do you have?

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yeah, this thing will go straight up a tree, in low range, even though its kinda "pokey", otherwise. Its amazing what you can do w/ a little bit of leverage.

its a 318 with 3.55 rear end, 265 tires on 16 inch wheels.
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Hi Chuck

If you have the Magnum 318 in your truck it can exert 1794 pounds of thrust on the road surface in Reverse gear with your gear ratio and tire size in high range.

The Enclave can exert 105 pounds more or 1899 pounds of thrust so not dramatically better than your truck. Since the Buick is lighter as well it would push the trailer up the hill backwards easier than the dodge does in high range but not as easily as it does in Low range. Still the difference is likely enough to make it useable for you. It would maneuver easier so you may be able to hit it at a little bit higher speed as well.

Going forward the Enclave has a 4.88:1 first gear ratio compared with the 2.88:1 reverse ratio so going forward it would be no contest.

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Interesting.

Added speed won't be possible, as the hill also happens to wrap around a 90 degree curve. I call it the "carrier landing" of trailer parking, and its a "walking speed" maneuver, at best. 500' backwards through the woods, 2 90* curves, the second one goes uphill sharply, with another 90* turn at the top, with the trailer placed parallel to a stone wall on the blind side of the turn.
(oh, yeah: the curved/hill part is terraced into the hill, held up by huge boulders...no guard rail or anything, so don't f*&$k up!)

One of these days, I'll get this maneuver on video, but since it takes both of us to do it, I need to arrange for a 3rd person to run the camera.
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On larger trucks we often add a front receiver for backing into tight campsites etc. It is amazing how much easier it is to back the trailer that way.

One other item if you don't need the 265 tires for off roading 225/75R x 16" LT tires will give you much better highway performance, better fuel economy and much better handling.
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