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Old 02-02-2008, 04:41 PM   #1
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Painting plastic front and bath ceiling in an Argosy

I would like to paint the plastic ceiling in the front and bath and also the tambors in my 78 Argosy. What is the best way to accomplish this task?
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Old 02-02-2008, 04:56 PM   #2
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search it, dozens of threads on this. latest news has it that PPG urethane paint (used in auto industry) is the hot ticket.

search tip: doing a google search with "site:airforums.com" at the end often yields good results\
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Old 02-02-2008, 05:01 PM   #3
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Krylon "Fusion" is a good primer - wear a mask.

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I would like to paint the plastic ceiling in the front and bath and also the tambors in my 78 Argosy. What is the best way to accomplish this task?
I used Krylon "Fusion" as a primer on the end caps of my '78 Sovereign - top coated with "Rustoleum".

I did not sand prior to painting, just cleaned it well with a "powerfull" cleanser.

I have found that 3M "Blue" painters masking tape works well.

Some Pics are in this thread....

http://www.airforums.com/forum...cap-15656.html

Don't spray it too thick, and leave plenty of dry time between coats.
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:11 PM   #4
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I would like to paint the plastic ceiling in the front and bath and also the tambors in my 78 Argosy. What is the best way to accomplish this task?
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For maximum adhesion and longevity, any plastic should be sanded, not scuffed, but well sanded, with 120 to 150 grit sandpaper, before any primer is used.

That gives the primer a far superior surface to bond to.

Large temperature changes, such as travel trailers experience, will quickly cause paint failures due to lack on proper bonding.

A plastic surface is very smooth, similiar to glass. It must be "well" sanded for proper long term primer bonding.

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Old 02-02-2008, 06:45 PM   #5
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The plastic vacuum formed domes are ABS plastic. The tambor doors I believe are PVC. There are good solvent based primers which will attack and bond to ABS very well. The Urethane based paints work very well. I am not too sure anything will complertely bond with the rigid PVC but there might be a product that would normally be recommended for PVC siding on houses. Check at a large professional paint store, (not some big box home store)
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very cool

great advice from all. i need to do the same eventually. learning lots. thanks.
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I clicked on your website link. Wow jazz and photography along with Airstreams, does it get any more plus de cool
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I am considering the same thing. I fear I will need to remove the front molded panl in order to repair some nasty dents. If would make sense to paint while it is out I suspect. Look forward to seeing your results.
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I just went through this... I used a complete line of products by PPG. I used a primer called K36. It uses a catalyst and if you do not use it all up, it will go solid in your gun costing you dearly. I then used a urethane paint that had to be mixed with a hardener. The paint is super strong and highly flexible. I had to make friends with the guys at the auto body paint supply house to buy it for it is not a product available to the general public. I have to say spraying the top coat was a challenge for me, runs suck and cause you to do it over. If I were to do it over again I would just find an auto body shop and lure one of the guys over with the promise of cash and drink. The paint goes on incredibly thin and requires a special touch with the gun. I spray tons of lacquer in my cabinet business, but urethane paint is different, it runs easily. Andy is 100% correct about the surface being properly sanded. The final product will only look as good as the prep work. I documented all this with photos in my blog. I think it was last month, life is a blur with all that is going on with Anna. Today I finish fabricating the new belly pans. Hopefully next weekend the sound of a rivet gun and a bucking bar will be heard throughout the neighborhood.

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To sand, or not to sand....that is the question...

Below is a cut from a Krylon website....

The tambours are almost a "krinkle" from the factory so sanding them is a moot point.

After over a year my encaps are showing absolutely no degradation of the paint job. I am perfectly satisfied with the quality. I used Krylon as a primer (no sanding) and used spray cans of Rustoleum Appliance Epoxy (beige) as a cover coat.

The Krylon Fusion creates a chemical bond, sort of like an epoxy setting up - so sanding to create a surface for a mechanical bond is not necessary.






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Thanks to all for the information! Now all I need is some 70' weather.
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