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Old 01-22-2015, 05:29 PM   #15
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Double congrats! We have a new AS but I have often thought about how cool it would be, in theory, to refurbish one and make it all our own creativity. Have fun and enjoy the ride!
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:17 PM   #16
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Hi John,
Looks great! I have a 62 Safari. I think it's a great length. What are your plans with this vintage gem? New floor? Removal of interior skins? New insulation? All I can say, is, take plenty o pictures. Digital is almost free. I don't know how much time you've spent on the forums. A couple of sites for your era AS. vintagetrailersupply.com, vintageairstream.com, thevap.com. Many others, but a few of my favorites. I wouldn't throw anything out until you're almost finished. Welcome to the forums!
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Old 01-22-2015, 07:21 PM   #17
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Looks great! I have a 62 Safari. I think it's a great length. What are your plans with this vintage gem? New floor? Removal of interior skins? New insulation? All I can say, is, take plenty o pictures. Digital is almost free. I don't know how much time you've spent on the forums. A couple of sites for your era AS. vintagetrailersupply.com, vintageairstream.com, thevap.com. Many others, but a few of my favorites. I wouldn't throw anything out until you're almost finished. Welcome to the forums!

It's been pretty neglected for quite some time. At the very least I need to gut her, take up the floor and evaluate the chassis. I'm unsure about the interior skin, but I can't imagine the electrical is of any value and likely needs to be redone. I plan to stay close to the original layout, but with a whole new esthetic.
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Old 01-23-2015, 07:39 AM   #18
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Hi teilhet, welcome to the Airstream community. That's a very nice 62 Safari you found. It looks like the exterior is in pretty good shape. I think the 62s were the first year of the Dura Torque axles.

It looks like you are making good progress even with a new baby and a young family in the house. But I bet it will be an hour here and an hour there with your Airstream. Take your time, no rush of course.

Your new baby and your new vintage Airstream are going to grow and evolve together.

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Old 01-26-2015, 09:40 AM   #19
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I've got the Safari mostly gutted. Moving forward...nervous about replacing the floor. I don't understand how this can be accomplished without removing the shell.Click image for larger version

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Old 01-26-2015, 09:43 AM   #20
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Are you doing the whole floor, or just the front and rear end? You're going to have to remove that belly pan either way... I did the front and rear eight feet of floor on my '74 without removing the shell. The belly pan has to come off to get to the bolts holding it all together though.

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Old 01-26-2015, 10:17 AM   #21
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Congrats on your 3rd and 4th child. I think for now the fourth is going
to cost more!
I'm in the stage of putting new sub flooring over a rebuilt chassis...so
I'm just going to be blunt, you need to gut and start over from the look
of your pics.
I had no choice but to do a psudo shell off and am accomplishing this
by removing the aft section panels to allow access under the cover to
get the ply wood in. The shell is supported by 2x4 frames that have to
be constantly re-located which takes time, jacks, clamps and straps.
So I left the front quarter of the shell attached to prevent the frequent
20mph winds from blowing the whole shebang across the lawn..the cover
straps in tandem with interior bracing keep the unit somewhat intact in
the wind.
It can be done but in a perfect
world you would be better off taking the shell off.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:20 AM   #22
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Ahhh....thanks! Plan to do the whole floor. I guess I'll remove the rest of the bottom inner Lining than move to the belly pan.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:33 AM   #23
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Congrats on your 3rd and 4th child. I think for now the fourth is going
to cost more!
I'm in the stage of putting new sub flooring over a rebuilt chassis...so
I'm just going to be blunt, you need to gut and start over from the look
of your pics.
I had no choice but to do a psudo shell off and am accomplishing this
by removing the aft section panels to allow access under the cover to
get the ply wood in. The shell is supported by 2x4 frames that have to
be constantly re-located which takes time, jacks, clamps and straps.
So I left the front quarter of the shell attached to prevent the frequent
20mph winds from blowing the whole shebang across the lawn..the cover
straps in tandem with interior bracing keep the unit somewhat intact in
the wind.
It can be done but in a perfect
world you would be better off taking the shell off.
Good luck.

I've mentally prepared for total overhaul. I think I can handle quite a bit of it between my friends and I. I'll need to shop around for frame repair...I'm worried about dropping the belly pan though...I understand that can be tricky to replace...wonder if there is a shop nearby that would do that for me when I get there.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:36 AM   #24
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Don't be afraid of the belly pan. I completely made a new one for mine. It's labor intensive, but not that difficult. If you're putting the original metal back in you shouldn't have any problem. Just mark everything real well...

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Old 01-26-2015, 10:54 AM   #25
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Don't be afraid of the belly pan. I completely made a new one for mine. It's labor intensive, but not that difficult. If you're putting the original metal back in you shouldn't have any problem. Just mark everything real well...

-Red, belly master...

Ok, encouraging! Most of the tail pieces need to be replaced anyway. Thanks!
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Old 01-26-2015, 11:29 AM   #26
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Belly pans are different through the years. For yours (and mine) the belly pan fits in between the shell and the C channel and may be bent down over the C channel. Several of us have cut it off leaving a couple of feet on the perimeter. That at least gives you access to the frame and you can deal with the belly pan later.

Put an ad in the classifieds here on the stove. Someone will want it.

Read as many of the full renovation threads as you can. You'll learn answers to questions you didn't know you had!

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Belly pans are different through the years. For yours (and mine) the belly pan fits in between the shell and the C channel and may be bent down over the C channel. Several of us have cut it off leaving a couple of feet on the perimeter. That at least gives you access to the frame and you can deal with the belly pan later.

Put an ad in the classifieds here on the stove. Someone will want it.

Read as many of the full renovation threads as you can. You'll learn answers to questions you didn't know you had!

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True. I forgot that bit... my belly pan is done in three sections, a wrap on each side, and the long center section. Hope I didn't mislead. Don't know what year they made the change. All my experience is on a '74 Sovereign.

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Old 01-26-2015, 08:45 PM   #28
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I think the belly pan made our trailers more aerodynamic. And it made them warmer as the belly pan helps hold the heat in. But truth be known, the belly pan is detrimental in that it holds moisture and makes maintenance harder.

Dropping the belly pan is as easy as drilling out a bunch of pop rivets. It is easy to take down. It is a bit more challenging getting it back up.

Red showed me his handy dandy upside down drill press! He mounted a 3/8 drill to his bottle jack and push it up into the frame and cross members to drill new 3/16 holes for the new pop rivets. Saves an old man's shoulder from all that drilling.

There is all kinds of treasure found in the belly pan. Dead varmints, rotten insulation, and maybe a couple of gallons of water. These forums have plenty of pictures of belly pan treasures.

Red, always helpful

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