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Old 12-26-2010, 12:40 PM   #57
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*grins* I have decided to treat this thread as if it were a joke. That's only because it's too good-natured to be considered a troll thread.

You just can't do what you imagine. You have a Sovereign with a broken frame that you can either patch or replace with a deeper frame - check out DanielB's 5" deep frame, which is an excellent depth. Now, you could build a frame like that, then mount the axles onto another 5" subframe which attaches to that frame, however, that just gets you 10" storage, and it raises the center of gravity to a place where you'll have horrible stability/handling problems.

As an alternative, I would suggest building a 5" frame like DanielB's. but alter the outriggers so that you can create a 12" or 15" pedestal inside along each side. This way, you cain a few specific 17" or 21" enclosures that can be ported to outside, you retain the low COG, and you don't mess with the weight or handling too much. Note the depth limit of these storage areas will just be the width of the outriggers, as you cannot move them closer together. Their width is defined by the standard fit of the axles.

It is ALL you can do, within the nature of an airstream's design.

And now, I stop watching this thread.
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Old 12-26-2010, 02:15 PM   #58
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Why a dishwasher? Is it worth the space, weight, power and water usage?
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Old 12-26-2010, 03:27 PM   #59
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Why a dishwasher? Is it worth the space, weight, power and water usage?
yes.

lol

I like to know things are clean. They might use less water than I use now.
I've seen small ones for the counter, I might just mount that below.




What do you think of me fixing the old frame and lowering it on to the new frame? Storage 12" tall along the sides. Assuming the original is 6". My 3"x6" tube is 20' long, should I splice?, where? find longer? I could put the splice over the axles and sandwich the splice and the original frame with 3/16" plate? That would enable much bigger water tanks and support the rear. My truck hitch needs to be 6" lower, If I left the AS as it is. This would level me out. Do you really think 6-7" will make a ton of difference in handling. I could, one day, find a used Hensley, I think that's the name of what I'm talking about. Would that make up the difference?
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Old 12-26-2010, 03:48 PM   #60
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Now this may be the worst yet. I could fit the two penguins under the floor, and duct it. The air would be much cooler below the AS and this would have a great COG, if I could fit it in 12". I could even share ducts with the furnace. It would be nice to duct the intake to pull air from the top and be able to switch between where it pulls from. It would also be nice to have the cool air come from above. Is it efficient to have the intake so close to the output on these things? I take it, I would be stressing the unit?
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Old 12-26-2010, 03:59 PM   #61
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And I thought I was crazy!
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Old 12-26-2010, 04:42 PM   #62
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One page back you were putting the two Penguins on top, today they are going underneath. Can't wait to see where they go tomorrow....
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:02 PM   #63
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lol
I really didn't like the idea of them on top.
I can get more fantasic fans up there and more space for solor.
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:40 PM   #64
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I really didn't like the idea of them on top.
I can get more fantasic fans up there and more space for solor.
I just can't stop laughing at your naivetť! Or should I feel sorry for you???

There is a reason why these units are called ROOF AIRS!! After Dometic spent probably hundreds of thousands of dollars engineering a product, where do you come off deciding that they will work better under a trailer, rather than on the roof where they were designed to be placed???

RVP/Airxcell makes a basement A/C unit that is designed for your intended location. Rather than bastardizing every component you intend to use and the trailer itself, why don't you do a little research and do something properly, using products the way they were intended and designed to be used?

Or are you trying very hard to be a comedian with the sole purpose of trying to get a rise out of the folks on the Forums? Or better yet, do you just like to see the gibberish that you input to this thread on the net as you seem to be asking questions and answering them yourself?

This will be my last post to this ridiculous thread. One bit of advice: Either learn what you are doing or buy something that has already been manufactured. You will be a menace to the motoring public if you attempt to complete your 'project' with the lack of skills and experience that you think you have but in reality don't seem to posses!

This thread is getting more ridiculous than the one by 'Cursh' !!!!!
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Old 12-26-2010, 06:05 PM   #65
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I'm betting this will continue,..until April 1st.


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Old 12-26-2010, 07:29 PM   #66
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The RVP/Airxcell unit is 18" tall. I guess only 5th wheels can use that in the floor, since tongue pulls would sit to high.

The RVP/Airxcell unit has all the same components, just configured differently. Theirs cools the radiator out the side, just like a normal roof unit. It even blows the cold air down. So the penguin fan will blow on the ground instead of a baking hot roof, I will have to make a gaurd that covers the opening while driving, and I might void the non-existent warranty.

If I end up with 18" under the floor, and can sell my two units for enough money to buy two of those, I would, But only because of naysayers. I personally think a grill out the side would look horrible.
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well, one obvious thing you forgot to add is an in-sink-erator. You'll need a garbage disposal if you want the ultimate traila.
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well, one obvious thing you forgot to add is an in-sink-erator. You'll need a garbage disposal if you want the ultimate traila.
Your joking,...to be the "ultimate traila" you HAVE to have a Jacuzzi!!


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Or perhaps Pamela Anderson's vibrating bed
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