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Old 12-14-2013, 04:36 PM   #57
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It looks like it is confined to a relatively small area. Chip the majority of it off and then wire brush it. A cup brush on an angle grinder works well for this. I agree with AldeanFan. You need at least two bolts on each side of the crack in order for it to do anything. Otherwise it is just a hinge. Take it from a rocket scientist. I would POR15 it before you make the final repairs. Also POR15 inside the frame members. You might want to wash everything with baking soda first to get that acid neutralized. Keep in mind that with very stiff tow vehicle suspension and heavy load bars even a good frame will take a beating and the connection between the shell and frame will suffer. Considering all the miles you put on the old girl and the years of neglect she held up pretty well.

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Yeah, I'm going to upgrade to two bolts on each side of the crack. I'll have the welder make sure to pre-drill the holes where I know the bolts won't be going through heavily corroded areas of the beam.
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Old 12-14-2013, 05:11 PM   #58
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U bolts would be a good idea. U can get them at McMaster.com

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Old 12-14-2013, 07:57 PM   #59
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U bolts would be a good idea. U can get them at McMaster.com

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In what configuration?
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Old 12-14-2013, 09:07 PM   #60
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If you can find the right size you can use them to hold the channel to the frame. You would need a plate with two holes in it on the top for the U-bolt to fit into and the U-bolt would wrap around the channel and hold it to the frame.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#u-bolts/=pt8n5q

Look at the square U-bolts. If you wanted to do some fab the welder could put some ears on the channel for the u-bolt to attach to.


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Old 12-14-2013, 11:43 PM   #61
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It's hard to tell for the pic, but it does not look that bad. A good welder could replace the bad sections in a half of a day. What is going to cost you is the labor. But it is well worth it.

I second the call for cleaning all the rest of it up and hitting it with por 15. You want to "try" to keep that rust in check.

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Old 12-15-2013, 04:07 AM   #62
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Another opinion, straight bolts and tack weld will be the best method as u bolts or channel bolts can shift if not used just right. It does however look repairable for a professional welder. Patches are temporary and may get you home but will fail again and should never be a permanent solution! New frame is my sug!
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:32 AM   #63
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I think he is wanting to patch to get home or to a place where he can do the job right. The U-bolts would be in addition to the through bolts just to keep it from shifting at all.

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Old 12-15-2013, 09:51 AM   #64
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Another opinion, straight bolts and tack weld will be the best method as u bolts or channel bolts can shift if not used just right. It does however look repairable for a professional welder. Patches are temporary and may get you home but will fail again and should never be a permanent solution! New frame is my sug!
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Yes, this is just a patch to get us to Dallas, where we're going to meet up with Paul Mayeux (62 Overlander) of A&P Vintage Trailer Works. He's going to help me get this straightened out permanently.
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Awesome May the patch help you travel safe and the repairs be less expensive then you think!
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Yes, this is just a patch to get us to Dallas, where we're going to meet up with Paul Mayeux (62 Overlander) of A&P Vintage Trailer Works. He's going to help me get this straightened out permanently.
Get it to Paul!
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Okay gang,

Just wrapped things up. It's all done. As done as it can be at least for now. Here's how it went:

The finished piece from the fabricator:


Fits like a glove:


Now how the heck does cutting oil work?


Here goes nothin':


One of 6 done:


Got a little rambunctious with the last one:


Throw some Loc-Tite on the locking nuts:


All bolted together:


Clothes put back on:


I haven't towed it anywhere yet. The A-Frame definitely shifted a little bit as I put the tongue jack back down and took it off the jack stands, but I think that's just because of the tolerance in the holes I drilled. We'll be doing a short lap around the block tomorrow to check things out. In any case, it's definitely in better shape than it was before.

We've got 3 days of driving to get to Dallas and then we'll be in Paul's territory and ready for the permanent fix, which we'll tackle after the New Year. I'll post here once that process starts. Thanks again y'all.
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Good luck. If all you saw in BAMA was Birmingham you missed alot. The NE part of the state is real pretty and has some nice parks. I have to admit the lower part of the state is rather ho hum.

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It's been 2 1/2 months since he headed out for TX, did you ever make? get the trailer fixed correctly? Have not seen any updates to your traveling webpage.

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