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01-28-2019, 04:47 AM
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#41
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2 Rivet Member
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Chicora
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 59
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Fair enough. This would be a boring place to live if we all thought the same.
Thank you for posting your opinion.
Jerry
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01-28-2019, 07:20 AM
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#42
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4 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Waco
, Texas
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 296
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shenze
It is of course just a saying.
It applies as my opinion, which is different than yours that I would rather spend my time doing more enjoyable things then trying to save money by going out of my way to register in another state just to save a few dollars.
A late model Airsteam trailer is a luxury item. Plain and simple. It is expensive. It never ceases to amaze me that some people who can afford them will complain about the cost to own them.
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I see nothing wrong at all, with registering an Airstream trailer out of state, if the registration fees in your state really are $800 per annum. Maine makes it very easy to register for up to 12 years at a single registration for just $20 per year. Thats great value.
Approximately 12% of 18 wheeler trailers on the East coast are registered in Maine....many of these are bulk fleet registrations.
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01-28-2019, 09:53 AM
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#43
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,692
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shenze
It is of course just a saying.
It applies as my opinion, which is different than yours that I would rather spend my time doing more enjoyable things then trying to save money by going out of my way to register in another state just to save a few dollars.
A late model Airsteam trailer is a luxury item. Plain and simple. It is expensive. It never ceases to amaze me that some people who can afford them will complain about the cost to own them.
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Well, this is an interesting perspective...are you saying you don't try to maximize your ability to save money when you purchase your TV's or TT's (or anything for that matter); after all that is really what we are trying to do here...most of us anyway? Not being sarcastic, just curious.
Purchasing an AS or any expensive vehicle to some folks may not be a "luxury" item by the way...for me it was and is, my choice of purchasing quality and comfort for the way we travel; and having owned several models of TT's and MH's, we found AS to be very cost effective with high quality vs some others we have owned...nothing to do with luxury in a Flying Cloud model...we love the Classic models and also the new Globe Trotter models, but are fine with the FC....for now; great bang for the buck and they typically keep most of their value vs SOB's. But I digress ;
Saving money, like a few thousand dollars on registration and sales tax, is something most everyone should want to take advantage of, if they can....who wants to give money to the Government be it state or local if you don't have to??
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Empty Nesters; Gypsies on the road! 2017 28' Twin Flying Cloud
2017 F250 King Ranch, 4X4, 6.7L, Blue-Ox WDH
Summer-Star Valley Ranch RV Resort (Thayne, WY); Winter-Sun City (Georgetown,TX)
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01-28-2019, 10:04 AM
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#44
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,618
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As more people look to save money by buying and registering out of state, many of the states have passed laws to address these issues. While it is legal to create an LLC in Montana to purchase your RV, it may not be legal to bring it back to your home state.In Arizona to be in compliance you must:
- purchase out of AZ
- stay out of AZ for the first 90 days after delivery
- travel at least 5 months of the year - out of AZ
States are taking the loss of revenue seriously and the fines for not being in compliance far exceed the original savings.
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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01-29-2019, 09:11 AM
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#45
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,692
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsydad
Well, this is an interesting perspective...are you saying you don't try to maximize your ability to save money when you purchase your TV's or TT's (or anything for that matter); after all that is really what we are trying to do here...most of us anyway? Not being sarcastic, just curious.
Purchasing an AS or any expensive vehicle to some folks may not be a "luxury" item by the way...for me it was and is, my choice of purchasing quality and comfort for the way we travel; and having owned several models of TT's and MH's, we found AS to be very cost effective with high quality vs some others we have owned...nothing to do with luxury in a Flying Cloud model...we love the Classic models and also the new Globe Trotter models, but are fine with the FC....for now; great bang for the buck and they typically keep most of their value vs SOB's. But I digress ;
Saving money, like a few thousand dollars on registration and sales tax, is something most everyone should want to take advantage of, if they can....who wants to give money to the Government be it state or local if you don't have to??
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By the way....we saved the 8.55% sales tax by registering in MT= $6,325...let's see...how can we use those "few dollars" savings...Alaska road trip perhaps?? New electric bikes for our travels? Cruise in the winter somewhere?....
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Empty Nesters; Gypsies on the road! 2017 28' Twin Flying Cloud
2017 F250 King Ranch, 4X4, 6.7L, Blue-Ox WDH
Summer-Star Valley Ranch RV Resort (Thayne, WY); Winter-Sun City (Georgetown,TX)
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01-29-2019, 09:34 AM
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#46
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1 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB International
Longmont
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsydad
By the way....we saved the 8.55% sales tax by registering in MT= $6,325...let's see...how can we use those "few dollars" savings...Alaska road trip perhaps?? New electric bikes for our travels? Cruise in the winter somewhere?....
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Wow that is a lot. Maybe you can use it to pay your annual dues to Tax Dodgers Anonymous.
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01-29-2019, 09:59 AM
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#47
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Sweatpants
1975 26' Argosy 26
Shenandoah
, Iowa
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 36
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No excuse for rudeness
I learned in kindergarten, if you can’t say something nice don’t say anything at all. All the responses you received were respectful, as well they should be. My opinion.
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01-29-2019, 10:17 AM
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#48
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1 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB International
Longmont
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweatpants
I learned in kindergarten, if you can’t say something nice don’t say anything at all. All the responses you received were respectful, as well they should be. My opinion.
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Ok everyone. Just relax. Your scolding of me is just as offensive as anything I have said. I have done nothing more then to try and state my opinion. The same as others have done.
Yet some have felt the need to respond to my comments as somehow not valid. The mere fact that I believe that one should pay taxes to the primary state in which they live and park their trailer is beyond comprehension for some. It is just one opinion. Not right, not wrong. qypsydad went out of his way to invalidate my opinion (twice) and did it in a rather pretentious way (hardly respectful). Let's just put this one to rest and agree to disagree. I apologize if I have offended anyone.
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01-30-2019, 09:09 AM
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#49
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2 Rivet Member
2015 27' FB International
Newmarket
, Ontario
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 30
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Registration Fees
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclist
I've never thought of Ontario as being a low tax jurisdiction however trailer registration is a one time fee of $72.
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Our Ontario Licence plates may be only a one time fee but the 13% Harmonized Sales Tax (HST) on purchase wasn't easy to swallow.
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01-30-2019, 09:14 AM
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#50
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RVHive
2018 27' Tommy Bahama
Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ksteve06
Only if it has a motor, otherwise you pay ad valorem every year on that trailer or fifth wheel.
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This is very true in GA. We pay over $1,000 each year in ad valorem on our Airstream, and that's on top of the sales tax we paid when we purchased it. When it comes to taxes, GA is not a good place to own an Airstream.
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01-30-2019, 09:21 AM
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#51
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2 Rivet Member
1968 22' Safari
Lake Elsinore
, California
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 49
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We have homes in both California and Utah and divide our time pretty much equally between the two. We have our AS and two cars registered in UT, and two other cars registered in CA. Drivers license is from UT. Have never had any problem with either CA or UT authorities when I explain that we split our lives between the two states.
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01-30-2019, 09:26 AM
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#52
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jeffndaile
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Clarkston
, Washington
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 147
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Glad I’m in Idaho ....
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01-30-2019, 09:54 AM
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#53
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
felton
, California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 693
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off topic
I predict there will be a tsunami of folks leaving cali over the next decade or so ... most driven out by cost of living ... I really think that owning RV parks will be big business in the coming decades. Not just retirees but younger folks looking for adventure travel too, this generation doesn't want to be saddled with mortgage debt and $1m fixer homes ... you gotta pay $10-12k yr alone in property taxes in Cali on a $1m homes & then with all the fires, the cost of home insurance will become staggering. I'm hearing at today rates, people are getting 60cs on the dollar in rebuild costs. If there is a more appropriate thread on this site to discuss further, let me know !
I'd be curious to know if there are any Co-op style RV parkers, multiple owners in an association each with their own lot ... kinda like a timeshare or owner-occupier mobile home parks ..
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01-30-2019, 10:02 AM
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#54
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Classy Roscoe
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 214
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The Joy of Taxes
Tax evasion is illegal.
Tax avoidance is good business.
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01-30-2019, 10:14 AM
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#55
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4 Rivet Member
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Greeneville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 436
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In TN our tag is $18 per year.....If I remember correctly. My advise is to hook up and drive east. Anywhere you stop will be cheaper than CA.
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01-30-2019, 10:19 AM
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#56
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New Member
2019 23' Flying Cloud
Port Charlotte
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 2
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My son lives in Mi , I signed trailer over to him I have a forever plate
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01-30-2019, 10:24 AM
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#57
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4 Rivet Member
2016 30' International
Quartz Hill
, California
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 356
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Do not get stopped by the CHP with Arizona plates and a California drivers license. You will have to pay all back registration fees. I paid my $735 last October. BTW, I believe the are scheduled to go up again in 2019.
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01-30-2019, 11:01 AM
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#58
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Clearlake
, California
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 77
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CHP are getting more vigilant about out-of-state vehicles. If you have an AZ-registered vehicle and the same cop spots it several times you can get popped. There is a short (less than thirty day) time allowance to re-register in California when you bring in a vehicle.
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01-30-2019, 11:20 AM
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#59
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New Member
Highland Village
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 3
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Texas is $45 to $55 for anything under 10,000 pounds GVW, it seems.
You have the upfront joy of Texas sales tax, of course.
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01-30-2019, 11:24 AM
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#60
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4 Rivet Member
2012 28' International
Prince Edward County
, Ontario
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 338
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Newmarketca
Our Ontario Licence plates may be only a one time fee but the 13% Harmonized Sales Tax (HST) on purchase wasn't easy to swallow.
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I know - it would have been a good time to live in Alberta when we bought it.
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