Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-30-2010, 08:21 PM   #1
2 Rivet Member
 
FullTimin2HI's Avatar
 
2004 28' International CCD
Palm Beach County , Florida
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 88
Question Any common/known problems/deficiencies on a 2004 International 28'?

My wife and I are setting out to purchase our first Airstream from a private seller. Our first journey in this Silver Voyage will take us some 1200 miles away from our conventional home to pick up the trailer we believe to be the best option for us in our upcoming fulltiming adventure, a 2004 International 28!

I have been lurking here long enough to see that there are loads of super friendly helpful folks who are more than willing to help us not stumble thru our experience so I decided to step out of the shadows and ask for help!

Some 02's are prone to floor rot, some years and models have defect type roof leaks...

Now I know it's a thing/stuff and ALL things wear out, break, need maintenence etc. etc., but here's the Q:

What (known?) problems should I be on the look out for in our prospective TT? (if any, cause those beautiful silver Airstreams really are a cut above!)
__________________

__________________
FullTimin2HI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2010, 08:33 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
cosmotini's Avatar

 
1963 24' Tradewind
Highland , Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,057
Images: 83
Not a problem, but be aware that particular model didn't have separate black/grey tanks. It has a 70 gallon combination tank. And the fresh tank is 33 gallons. Could be an issue for some people. It never was for us when we owned that model.
__________________

__________________
Dennis

Air #4056

"Oooh - They have the Internet on computers now!" - Homer Simpson
cosmotini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2010, 08:34 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
cosmotini's Avatar

 
1963 24' Tradewind
Highland , Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,057
Images: 83
Oh, and welcome to the forums!
__________________
Dennis

Air #4056

"Oooh - They have the Internet on computers now!" - Homer Simpson
cosmotini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2010, 08:39 PM   #4
2 Rivet Member
 
FullTimin2HI's Avatar
 
2004 28' International CCD
Palm Beach County , Florida
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 88
Thanks cosmotini! I came across this potential glitch and realized it was nothing to be concerned about... April and I talked thru it and promised never to overflow into the shower floor, YUCK! (read on here somwhere that somebody did that!) Thanks for the warm welcome! Happy to be here!
__________________
FullTimin2HI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2010, 08:47 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
Mexray's Avatar
 
1978 28' Ambassador
Morada , California
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,583
Going all that distance sounds like you've already made a commitment on the AS...

If final price will be subject to your inspection...all the regular visuals would apply...

*Are all the exterior alum panels in good shape - no dents...
*Do all the appliances work - hook up water and electricity to check em' out...
*Are batteries good, or more that 2/3 years old - in which case they'll probably need replacement...
*Has it been sitting in one place for a long period of time? - if so, the brakes, wheel seals and bearings will need to be check out and adjusted - probably a good thing, in any event before hitting the road on a log trip...
*How's the roof look, up on top - are there any large 'globs' of sealant up there that would indicate leaks at some time in the past...
*Hook up the 7-way electrical tow cable - do all the exterior lights work? You can also check electric brakes by holding a compass against a wheel to see if the needle moves when the TV's brake pedal is pressed to apply brakes (check the stop lights then also)...
*Is the propane take mounting is good shape and tight, up front...
*Is the tow coupler in good shape?
*Check behind cabinets and around toilet to see any signs of plumbing leaks that may have caused any floor damage over time ...
*Axle 'droop' shouldn't be an issue in a unit that new, but you can take a look at the axle levers to see if you still have a bit of 'downward' angle to them - a good thing!
*If you have a volt meter with you, you can check the battery voltage at the battery terminals before plugging into shore power - then after plugging in, check the voltage again to see it rise, indicating the converter/charger is operating - actual voltage will depend on state of charge in the batteries, but you should see a volt or two 'rise' after plugging in...

Just some things I'd check...

Have fun with your new 'baby'...

Ray in Northern Calif...
__________________
Ray & Pat; Morada, CA
Mexray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 05:04 AM   #6
2 Rivet Member
 
FullTimin2HI's Avatar
 
2004 28' International CCD
Palm Beach County , Florida
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 88
Thumbs up

Thanks Ray! That checklist is the perfect start.

Seems to me a good thorough inspections should involve checking over everything, turning on switches and making sure all the little things work, but honestly I hadn't even thought to check out the appliances!

It is a good thing there are people looking out for me.
__________________
FullTimin2HI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 09:18 AM   #7
Moderator
 
blmitch5's Avatar

 
2006 19' International CCD
Olathe , Kansas
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,221
Images: 1
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by FullTimin2HI View Post
Thanks Ray! That checklist is the perfect start.

Seems to me a good thorough inspections should involve checking over everything, turning on switches and making sure all the little things work, but honestly I hadn't even thought to check out the appliances!

It is a good thing there are people looking out for me.
You might check the inspectors list and see if there is someone close to inspect it before you drive 1200 miles. I went over 1200 miles one way to buy ours but I had the help of a very good inspector before I paid for it. It can give you peace of mind etc. Also if they have had an Airstream or Aistreams they know what to look for. I owe my inspector big time!
__________________
blmitch5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 09:31 AM   #8
2 Rivet Member
 
FullTimin2HI's Avatar
 
2004 28' International CCD
Palm Beach County , Florida
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 88
Awesome suggestions! Thank you so much, didn't know there was an inspector's list... Had to hunt around for a minute there but that is a really great resource.

I kinda feel like we have our hands tied on this decision. Our closing date on the house is 2-20-10 and we have to have things lined up by then. Really, we live in South Florida, going up north in January seems ludicrous by most standard thinking. I believe there really aren't too many of these units on the market right now. I'm sure AS makes less internationals than other finishes and once people have these silver palaces, it seems they keep them forever! I wish there was a unit closer to "home" that was the right price and finish. Can't say I'm in love with the "Hazard Orange" colored cushions as of yet, but a quick recovering could change the interior dramatically for just a few bucks.
__________________
FullTimin2HI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 09:33 AM   #9
Moderator
 
jcanavera's Avatar

 
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton , Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,002
Images: 143
Send a message via AIM to jcanavera Send a message via Skype™ to jcanavera
Big appliance items to check. Does the AC work, heat pump if so equipped or heat strip?

Have them turn on the fridge the day before you see the trailer. Is it cold? Check that it works on electric, then switch it over to gas. Sniff for ammonia smells (could have a leak). Bring a thermometer and check both compartments (fridge and freezer).

Run the furnace.

Have them fire up the water heater on a cold tank of water. Is it a gas/electric unit or gas only? If it is gas/electric start it on electric only. The water will start to heat up. Once you verify that, fire up the gas side and watch the burner. It should have a nice blue strong flame.

Check out the stove. Run the oven and light the burners.

If possible see if you can hook up to city water. Check for leaks while the system is under pressure. Check the water outlets to make sure they work and that they shut off tightly. Don't forget to check outside if there is an outside outlet, check that the water heater drain plug doesn't leak and look underneath the trailer for any dripping water. Check inside the cabinets under the water fixtures.

If possible have them add some water to the fresh water holding tank, disconnect the city water and verify that the water pump works. Once the system gets to pressure, the pump will stay off. While inspecting the trailer verify that the pump stays off unless an outlet is opened. Note that if the pump does a quick burp or short run every so often, without you opening an outlet, you could have a problem with a water line leak.

Check out the toilet and make sure the bowl flushes. Watch to see if the bowl holds water. It should not slowly leak out.

Also when checking out the sinks and water outlets, check the drain pipes. Possibly close off the sink drains and put some water into the sinks. Then open up the drains to allow the accumulated water to drain. Check the drain pipe under the sinks for leaks.

All the items mentioned are easily missed and could cause you some expensive repairs if discovered after the purchase.

The biggest problem you have quite honestly is that you are buying in the dead of winter and going to a cold climate to check this trailer out. The owner has probably winterized any may not be willing to dewinterize to allow you to check the water systems. Same issue goes for checking the AC unit since again if it is cold enoungh, the unit may not operate. If this was my trailer and you and I had agreed upon a sale contingent upon this type of inspection, I wouldn't hesitate to allow these checks.

You might need to get the trailer to some type of RV dealership where some of these inspections could be done for you in a indoor service area. I would be very hesitant of buying privately without doing these inspections.

Jack
__________________
Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500,'14 Honda CTX 700
jcanavera is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 09:52 AM   #10
Rivet Master
 
noreen&sal's Avatar
 
1981 27' Excella II
mays landing , South Jersey
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,179
Images: 9
Great list Jack. I would add check oven thermostat. Dont ask me how I know. Sal.
__________________
noreen&sal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 10:19 AM   #11
Ready-to-Travel
 
pmclemore's Avatar

 
2012 30' International
Walkerton , Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,494
*What are you going to do about a hitch? Will you be able to tow the rig home?

*Since you'll be driving 1200 miles, you will need to camp on the way home. If you've never trailered before, it can be very confusing - especially when you're worn out after driving all day. Be sure to stop early enough so you are not already at the end of your rope. Better yet, see if your PO (previous owner to-be) will let you camp in his yard for a day or so. I extended that courtesy to the family that bought my Safari and I think it made a real comfort-level difference to them.

*Test everything; open all the doors - storage compartments and cabinets. Look inside and smell. rodents or dampness can be detected that way. Test the smoke alarm (nothing much can go wrong with the propane leak detector).

*See if the PO will let you keep his license plate for the trip back home. Not really much risk of being caught with an incorrect plate.

*Be sure the rig wheels are chocked whenever you are not hitched up. You'd be amazed how something that heavy can roll away on "flat" ground.

By the way - welcome to the forum and Happy Trails.

Pat
__________________
--------------------------------------
Somebody, please, point me to the road.

AIR 3987
TAC VA-2
WBCCI 4596
pmclemore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 10:23 AM   #12
Moderator
 
blmitch5's Avatar

 
2006 19' International CCD
Olathe , Kansas
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,221
Images: 1
The color is easy to change. Here is who I used.

http://www.tbrich.com/azbambi/decors.html

Here is the before and after.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-2616583267.png
Views:	80
Size:	157.7 KB
ID:	118294   Click image for larger version

Name:	image-3610328022.png
Views:	89
Size:	969.4 KB
ID:	118295  

__________________
Get involved and sign up for a Rally!
http://www.airforums.com/forums/calendar.php
WBCCI 4973
blmitch5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 10:57 AM   #13
2 Rivet Member
 
FullTimin2HI's Avatar
 
2004 28' International CCD
Palm Beach County , Florida
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 88
Thanks for the lists y'all! These are things I would not have remembered.

Good question Pat, we've got a 99 f-350 7.3L crew DRW as our TV, need to get my 7 pin outlet hooked up on the truck still... I just ordered a Maxbrake controller today so I can get that installed before the run up the coast. Stopping is important, especially for this thin blooded Florida boy who has never driven in snow! Thanks for the welcome. I'll make sure to pick up some chocks on the way up at a truck stop somewhere...

blmitch - that color change is sweet! April and I reeally liked the Victorinox edition in the new trailers at the local dealer! We've talked about kinda making ours similar!
__________________
FullTimin2HI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2010, 11:49 AM   #14
2 Rivet Member
 
FullTimin2HI's Avatar
 
2004 28' International CCD
Palm Beach County , Florida
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 88
Jack, I just noticed you are in Fenton. I was born in Cape. Glad to see another SeMissourian on here.
__________________

__________________
FullTimin2HI is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Looking at a '66 Ambassador today - any known issues? mommythrice General Repair Forum 4 04-22-2014 09:51 PM
How to check for Mold/other common problems (New purchase) TheWanderer 1990 - 1993 Excella 0 04-01-2012 01:46 AM
Feedback please.... does the '82-280 motorhome have any known issues. bosube Classic Motorhomes 10 10-02-2010 08:45 PM
Any known furnace problems dnrtheil Furnaces, Heaters, Fireplaces & Air Conditioning 5 04-06-2007 12:22 PM
Most common problems with 1960s trailers? rluhr 1966-68 Caravel 10 08-21-2003 08:31 AM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.