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Old 11-24-2015, 09:53 AM   #1
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Four Season Camping?

We are looking to go to the next stage and getting a 1997 LY 31. How well are they insulated for winter use out here in the west?
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Old 11-24-2015, 09:58 AM   #2
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Not good. Once you get consistently below freezing, long term usage of an Airstream (and nearly any other RV) is pretty miserable. Not only is the aluminum skin a great conductor of the cold, but you end up dealing with frozen dump valves, excessive propane usage, etc... Not to mention cabin fever when you are stuck inside all day long because it's too cold outside.

The trailers are really three season units.
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Old 11-24-2015, 10:00 AM   #3
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Oh sorry, 1997 LY 31 motor home.
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Old 11-24-2015, 10:05 AM   #4
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Oh sorry, 1997 LY 31 motor home.
Doesn't matter, it's still a challenge to camp in consistently freezing temperatures in a fiberglass LY motorhome.
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Old 11-24-2015, 10:17 AM   #5
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Gotta go south….I think

I don't think any Airstream is billed as 4 season…could be wrong

BUT….Even 4 season RVs are't great below freezing temps…unless you stay in one spot, jump thru hoops to insulate underneath, address liquids freezing, etc. Also heating them is costly and/or a pain in the neck. Condensation is an issue.

Annual budget to live in an RV STARTS at about $24K

We should have a section to click on for prospective year rounders. So many people get the idea of doing this. Don't get me wrong…it can be done, people are doing it….but not up North. Even north New Mexico at higher elevations is a stretch
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We really just want to go out for an overnighter just to get out of the house once in awhile.
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Old 11-24-2015, 10:51 AM   #7
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The only four season RV I would feel comfortable in long term during the winter would be an Arctic Fox by Northwoods. I still do go out in my airstream camping, but for three or four days at a time during the winter; not two weeks.

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Old 11-24-2015, 10:53 AM   #8
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actually -- question -- are you looking to hold the vehicle in one place all winter; such that you can add insulation to the underbody/ground levels, windows, etc. - or are you looking to travel during the winter. That may impact the answer.
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We really just want to go out for an overnighter just to get out of the house once in awhile.
You'd be fine if you dry camp. That is, leave the plumbing system winterized and use campground washroom/shower facilities. Use bottled water for cooking, etc.
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ok - just saw your reply posted at the same time as mine :-P... yeah for overnighters, two or three days, you'll be fine in an airstream... just get to know the wintertime precautions, what you can do; how to camp without dewinterizing if its too cold or if you are boondocking, etc.
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Now that you mention it we have an arctic fox camper on our land. We love the walk around queen bed but it has no living space. We also have 24 foot Ford ClassB ( carbureted 460) with a corner bed. We are hoping that The airstream will give us the best of both worlds.
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No. The Airstream is a huge mass of R1 windows. Comfort wise, unless you're ready, know what's going on, ventilate, manage humidity, heat right, etc., it will necessitate alot of goose down -- but on the plus, there's a lot of goose down involved.

go searching in the on the road subforum on winter camping. there's a good thread from two or three years ago of a couple that wintered over on the grand canyon rim; plus others on aspects of winter camping to keep watch for.
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Cold weather & Airstream Land Yachts

It's true they are great conductors of COLD.
We left our 35 footer in the garage in NC and came up in January a few years ago when it had been below freezing for 3 weeks before we got here.
We came every day and tried to warm up the coach enough to sleep here.
Highs were 15 degrees and lows around ZERO. The COLD defeated us for 5 days and the motel welcomed us back each night. Tin cans are not suitable housing in real cold weather unless it's kept warm, and there is not enough propane for that to work for very long. It's not just the air your need to warm up, it's the aluminum, the glass, the steel the wood, the upholstery, the bedding, the chassis, etc, etc.
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