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Old 10-18-2012, 09:28 AM   #1
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Chlorinating tank while on the road

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I have read the AS manual and am a strict rule follower. The problem is how to work out the actual procedure without having 39 gallons of chlorinated water pour out on the ground or spend hours running my water pump to empty the fresh water tank into the gray water tank for dumping.

My plan is to add bleach to the tank before leaving on a camping trip. We will arrive approximately four hours later, at which time we will try the process of using the water pump to empty the tank (realizing that we will have to refill the tank with fresh water and then pump it out again).

Does anyone have any thoughts on this process? Can I damage the water pump by using it continuously for such a period of time? How long will one flush cycle take using only the water pump?
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:40 AM   #2
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Fill, colorinate and drain the tank several days before the trip. Then add fresh water and your good to go.
Why do you want to do all that when traveling?
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:02 AM   #3
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Adding bleach and then driving is going to get all the bad stuff out of the tank as a result of sloshing. Unless the tanks is real dirty you don't need to use lethal amounts of Chlorine. I don't drink out of the fresh water tank so it does not have to be pure as the driven snow.

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If you can do this at home prior to departure, it is so much easier. Obviously running the pump as you have prescribed places wear and tear on the pump. It is so much easier to open the valve and let the tank drain.

I do one trip a year where we rely completely on the water we haul in. The day before I leave I sanitize in the am. Later on in the afternoon I drain, do one fill and then drain again. I have lots of other things to do like wash and pack the trailer so quite honestly the process is much easier to do than to deal with this once I arrive at my destination.

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Old 10-18-2012, 10:44 AM   #5
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Thanks, Jack. Is that the only sanitization you do during the year? We don't drink the water from the tank either, and the water seems to be OK for washing dishes and bathing. It's been in the tank for a couple of months and we have seldom used it, but its still clear (to the eye!).
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When I fill my tank I add a bit bleach. If I don't use the water within a two or three weeks I will drain it at the house and refill. I have flat rate unlimited water so no quilt. In the past year I have only used the water from the tank twice and it tasted just fine. The rest of the time I have been hooked up to park water when out camping.
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Do you add the bleach at every refill and leave it in until you use or drain the water?
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That was my thinking, Perry.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:13 AM   #9
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We sanitize the fresh water tanks once a year, when we head south in January.

Because of where we head from, this has to be on the road as we dewinterize at the same time.

It takes a couple of days to get the fresh water rinsed to the point we are willing to drink from it or cook with it, after which we do so without any problems, ever. Keep our blue filter changed every couple of months, and the water running through regularly, and no worries.

I wouldn't want to bathe or cook with water that has sat in the tanks for a couple of months. Just seems risky to me. Should anything take a notion to grow in there, one could contract it...........

We try to use up water and then drain our fresh water tanks whenever we are not going to be using the Interstate for more than a day or two. Refill when next ready to head out.


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Do you add the bleach at every refill and leave it in until you use or drain the water?
I add it at refill, I have about a 18gal tank and add about 1/4 cup or less. Just enough to keep the beasties at bay. I have been doing this for 20 years or so on my boats and it works fine for me in the trailer also. I don't mind the little chlorine taste. I drink the water, wash and use it for cooking. Make sure you use unscented bleach. You can also buy “special” water treatment that is basically nothing but bleach in a small expensive bottle.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:14 AM   #11
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You have a new trailer so I doubt that there has been enough time to for anything to build up in your tank. A cup of bleach in 40 gallons of water is enough to disinfect the tank but not enough to cause concern when draining on the ground. It is best to drain out residual water if you don't use your trailer for a month or more so the water doesn't develop an unpleasant taste from sitting.

But disinfecting once a year before the season is usually enough. Having a water filter on one spigot and perhaps a Britta filter jug is sufficient for drinking and cooking water. And I would much rather shower with water from my trailer than use the community baths at any campground
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My Airstream owner's manual says to use (gallons ×0.13) ounces of bleach to sanitize the tank. For my Airstream with a 26-gallon tank and 6-gallon water heater, that's 4.16 ounces of bleach. But that's for a "shock" treatment of a tank. If you treat to this level, you've got to drain the tank afterwards.

To disinfect the water in a clean tank, it only takes 8 drops of bleach per gallon, or one teaspoon per 5 gallons. You can drink chlorinated water, as long as the concentration is not too high. The EPA Safe Drinking Water Act primary standards call for a maximum residual disinfectant level (MRDL) of 4 parts per million. If you used 1 teaspoon of bleach per 5 gallons, no need to drain the water after treatment, just use it normally.

As long as there is ANY chlorine left in the water, it will kill off any new microbes that might get into the water. If you drain off the chlorinated water and add new water, you may be adding new microbes as well, which kind of defeats the purpose.

Some people with very sensitive taste buds can taste as little as 1 part per million of chlorine. There are two ways to deal with this: (1) let the water sit for about 4 hours so the chlorine evaporates— in the fridge is fine so the water is good and cold— before drinking it; (2) use a granular activated carbon (GAC) filter on the drinking water tap. Carbon removes chlorine.

So, in my case, shock-treat the tank once per year at 4¼ ounces of bleach per tank, but I also disinfect the water at 1 tsp per 5 gallons at every fill.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:48 AM   #13
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Everything mojo does, and...

I have learned the most efficient way to put plain, unscented Chlorox in your fresh-water holding tank is to put a plastic funnel into the female end of your white, water hose and pour 8oz of bleach into the hose itself.
(The hose must of course have a Camco filler tube with shut-off already installed on the male end. This was an Air Forums tip)

Now here's the real answer to you question.
You can drain 6 gals at a time by draining and refilling your H2O heater.
I can drain my 54 gallon holding tank very quickly using this method after I have let the bleach solution slosh around.
Step 1. Turn the pump off
Step 2. Open the H2O heater over-pressure relief valve
Step 3. Remove the H2O heater drain plug. Drain the tank.
Step 4. Replace the drain plug
Step 5. Close the over-pressure relief valve
Step 6. Turn on the pump and refill the H2O heater.
Repeat
Don't forget Step 2 or you will get shot in the face with the drain plug and 6 gallons off chlorinated water. (Don't ask me how I know this.)
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I'm on the Mojo plan as well. However, if during the season I have reason to suspect real trouble, like a boil order/do not use order (only happened once in all my camping years), I'll do it again.

If I have water that sits in the tank for a couple weeks or just seems "funny", I use the backpacking formula of 2 drops per liter for drinking water. I forgot how the math works out per gallon X 61 gallons, but it ain't a lot of bleach.
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