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Old 12-08-2011, 09:29 PM   #1
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Anyone know what is the current registration for the 2012 Rally?
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Old 12-09-2011, 02:13 AM   #2
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I am assuming you are inquiring about the number of participants already signed up.

For the benefit of others that may be interested and not signed up, the registration form is listed here on the WBCCI web site, http://wbcci.org/documents/SedaliaRegistrationForm.pdf

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June 27 – July 4, 2012 --- Sedalia, Missouri
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Convention/Rally Fees for registrations received prior to January 1, 2012 will be $475.00 for couples, $375.00 for singles, and $120.00 for each additional adult. Youths 4-19 $60.00 Rally fees include 3 point hook-up, 30 amp electric, water and sewer.
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NO 3 amp. electric or generator section available).
Rally Fees received after January 1, 2012 will be $500.00 for couples, $400.00 for singles and $130.00 for each additional adult. Through the courtesy of Airstream, Inc, all members pre-registering on or before January 1, 2012 will be eligible to participate in a drawing for up to a total of $2000.00 in awards, These awards may be redeemed at any Airstream Dealership or at the Jackson Center Service Center for parts and service.


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Old 12-10-2011, 12:26 PM   #3
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Does anyone know how many members are currently registered or signed up for the 2012 International Rally?
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Old 12-10-2011, 01:14 PM   #4
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Does anyone know how many members are currently registered or signed up for the 2012 International Rally?
I suspect the one-word answer to your question is, "no". Or at least, no one on the forums knows. Recent international presidents have showcased this number in their presidential newsletter but the present IP does not seem to be publishing one.

Last year the official attendance at the international rally was 539. I expect it to be somewhere less than 500 this year.
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Old 12-10-2011, 05:50 PM   #5
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Thanks Nuvite-F, I was just curious.
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:49 AM   #6
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I wonder how many more would be there if the 3 amp parking option had not been eliminated?? At least 25 to 30% used it the last time it was offered in Madison. We have skipped the last 2 that were full hookups only and will continue to do so in the future
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How much less expensive would the 3amp parking be typically? As it is now, I'm looking at $595 for rally fees.
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How much less expensive would the 3amp parking be typically? As it is now, I'm looking at $595 for rally fees.
When 30 amp was first made available the extra cost was $135. This later increased to over $200. Basically a $270 rally (2 people) became a $500 rally with full hook ups.
I could dig exact numbers out of the check book but this is pretty close.
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When 30 amp was first made available the extra cost was $135. This later increased to over $200. Basically a $270 rally (2 people) became a $500 rally with full hook ups.
I could dig exact numbers out of the check book but this is pretty close.
Rick, you must have figured out by now that they aren't interested in having people at the rally that don't need full hookups. That's too primative for quality members.
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Actually, the popularity of 30 amp caused them to look at venues that have the service installed. I'm sure they would offer 3 amp at lower price, if the venue offered it at a discount.
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Actually, the popularity of 30 amp caused them to look at venues that have the service installed. I'm sure they would offer 3 amp at lower price, if the venue offered it at a discount.
Actually they have just chosen not to. If you look at the site used in Gillette for example they have thousands of boondocking sites. No 3 amp, but certainly suitable for generator or solar. The price difference would not make up the whole $200 but since everyone pays for 13 or so nights it would certainly help. The rally has also been fairly profitable for the last 2 years so now that the losses from the Larsen fiasco in Madison have been made up the rally could be priced significantly lower.
It is interesting to note that attendance has dropped almost every year since 30 amp was introduced. I am not saying that is the cause but maybe it wasn't much of a draw either.. Attendance has dropped even faster since 3 amp was eliminated. It is not good to ignore 30% of your potential attendees
I would consider a $ 400 full hookup rally but there are no $500 rallies in my future.
We will be attending Birthday Bash 3 this year instead
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There were 3 amp campgrounds available that could have been contracted for at Gillette but the EC7 decided everyone should stay in the major Boxelder campground and that was all 30 amp. The only people not in that campground were the handicap and that campground also had 30 amp. There was a small overflow campground behind the auditorium, but it also had 30 amp. At Madison VAC wanted the grass and they thought they would have 100 trailers and half would want 30 amp. It turned out only 20 VAC wanted 30 amp and so leadership turned the 30 grass sites over to the general 30 amp parking. The first 50 VAC members that wanted 3 amp service get the grass parking. The remaining 20 who wanted only 3 amp had to park on the asphalt.

With our attendance down to less than 600 more facilities are now adequate size but many want to just sell 30 amp service. There is a better margin in it for them. I am not sure the leadership sees the benefit of offering 3 amp when they have made a profit for two years by just offering 30 amp. Actual cost leadership is paying out to the campsites are around $15 per night. The rest goes to other expenses and entertainment.
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Thanks for the break down Rick. I have read the whole article in the BB and looked at the program, but I'm still unclear what exactly we get for the $595 besides eight nights at an RV park in MO. Are all meals and events included?
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I am not sure the leadership sees the benefit of offering 3 amp when they have made a profit for two years by just offering 30 amp. Actual cost leadership is paying out to the campsites are around $15 per night. The rest goes to other expenses and entertainment.
And I always thought this was a nonprofit club.
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