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Old 08-14-2016, 03:48 PM   #29
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Thor has nothing to do with managing what they build or where they build their products or what they call them.

That makes sense.

...and btw, in your list of Thor brands you forgot "Bison Coach."


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Old 08-14-2016, 04:38 PM   #30
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Thor has nothing to do with managing what they build or where they build their products or what they call them.

That makes sense.

...and btw, in your list of Thor brands you forgot "Bison Coach."

Certainly they can have input-they are the parent corporation. And owning the Airstream corporate division, they can and certainly dictate whatever they want the division managers to do. But as in any corporate environment with a parent over subs, they are more interested in profits and not the day to day activity. Do they ultimately control what Aistream does? Absolutely. But the details are left with the local managers. The point is that a division of Thor builds them, not Thor itself. It does not mean the quality is any better or worse. Most likely, worse, since profits mean more to Thor than quality, while quality likely meant more to the founder of Aistream. But they are still built by Airstream, a division of Thor, and not Thor itself, not that it really makes any difference in how they are built.

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Old 08-14-2016, 06:54 PM   #31
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BTW Thor recently purchased Jayco which manufacturers Entegra class A coaches. I've owned a couple and they are awesome coaches.
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Old 08-14-2016, 07:34 PM   #32
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After watching the "10 reasons" video, I was left wondering how the paint color was a pick (#1), rear screen that AIs have (#3), swiveling cab seats that AIs have (#6), I preferred two TVs rather than one on a swivel (#7 & #8), and wasn't sure what the difference was on the TV antenna (#10).
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Old 08-15-2016, 07:09 AM   #33
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I do wish Winnebago would get the Mercedes factory safety gear upgrades, like blind spot monitoring and forward collision alert, that most other brands have.


I upgraded my AI EXT from 2013 to new AI for lane departure alone! Love it. (Wish it had auto-adjust cruise).

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Old 08-15-2016, 09:04 AM   #34
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My first AI was a 2015 lounge. I traded it in on a 2016 AI lounge with air suspension and glad I did. Prior to purchasing my first AI I rented several brands, one was a Winnie class B. Previously in my life I had owned class C's and A's. So I was prepared for problems any motorhome will have, from the least expensive to the very expensive.

I thought the Winnie was decent and compared well to my experience with the other motorhomes I had. I did love the mercedes sprinter underpinnings. However, when I had the AI it was, in my opinion much superior. It had all the upgraded mercedes equipment. The components what I could see were top notch and superior. The cabinetry with its hardware was better.

Everybody has there own use of a motorhome. For those who want to sleep more then two then there are other choices.

I have had a few problems but have now got most of the bugs out. I do wish there were manual bypasses to some of the systems, like the macerator or the steps.

The AI was more expensive then the others I looked at. Whether it was worth the full difference is a personal matter. I enjoy driving mine and using it. It is far more reliable then the previous class C's and A's I owned. Getting to the inner parts is difficult, but to be expected in what they jam into such a small unit.

The only motorhome I wished I tried was the Advanced RV. It is about 100 G's more then an AI so I would expect a lot more.

As a final point I did not buy my AI because of the AI badge I bought it after I compared it to the others in the marketplace and more importanly what I personally wanted for my particular use of the vehicle.
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Old 08-15-2016, 07:34 PM   #35
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We recently sold our 2013 AI EXT to go to a small Class A DP. However, we really enjoyed our AI and it performed well for us. We owned it just less than two years and put 24,000 miles on it. So we used it. Half of those miles were driven on two separate month long trips out west.

We had very few issues with our coach. Most of those issues that we did have were self inflicted due to this being our first RV. We had a leaky exhaust fan that the dealer tried to fix three times under warranty. I finally took it apart myself to see what was going on. Once I discovered the issue and sealed it, it never leaked again.

The other issue was with our AC when it would not turn on at a campsite. Thanks to this forum, I was advised on what to look for and where to find it. I found it, fixed it and all was well. Never happened again.

And that was the total sum of our issues. Everything else worked as designed. We used the shower at least 90% of the time and it worked well. The seats were very comfortable and, unlike others here, we found the bed to be comfortable. We always slept well but maybe that was because we were on vacation and not worried about day to day things. Our single biggest complaint was the loud AC. Fortunately on our last western trip, it was May in the mountains so AC wasn't a necessity for a good part of the trip. The furnace works well and came in handy on some of those thirty degree nights.

For the last 14K miles, according to the trip feature, we averaged 14.9mpg while towing our Fiat Abarth. Considering that mileage included lots of mountain roads and that I have a heavy foot, I found that mileage to be very acceptable.

Because we want to do longer trips, we decided to try a larger motorhome. Having driven our recently acquired 33' Tiffin Allegro Breeze back from Florida to our NC home, I can see that I will miss how well the AI drives. I will have to accept that I am no longer in the sports car of motorhomes. I am planning a two month long trip for next summer that will take us from NC to Calgary to see Banff and Jasper national parks and then on to Vancouver.

This forum has been a wonderful plus. The knowledge here will make any new owner's life easier.

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