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07-03-2013, 02:18 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
2001 25' Safari
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 299
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@PharmGeek;
Nothing wrong with being skeptical...in fact that's a great way to approach anything in today's information-overloaded society.
What I suggest is seek out members that have been towing much of their lives and see what they think. What I suspect you will find is that many are using a Hensley or Pro Pride, or tow a fairly modest trailer with an F350 or some such. Experience is the only real teacher, and the wise learn from the experiences of others.
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Gary & Debbie
2001 Safari 25 SS
2011 Chevy Traverse 3.6L AWD • Hensley • DirecLink • McKesh
Set-up by Can-Am RV
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07-03-2013, 02:22 PM
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#82
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2 Rivet Member 
1967 22' Safari
1978 25' Tradewind
NEW LENOX
, Illinois
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 88
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Interesting thread you guys have going here. It seems to me the collective wisdom is ' it's your life/airstream, don't take a chance, get the best'. It's too much effort to refute that kind of logic so I won't.
I use an old fashion reese dual cam on my 21 ft. and on my 25 ft. Airstreams. They work great. Never had a problem. No oscillation. Easy to hook up. Easy to set up.
John H
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07-03-2013, 02:37 PM
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#83
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Rivet Master 
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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John H, you poor thing (as my dear old Grand Mother would have said). According to some misguided souls here you are living on borrowed time and you should be ashamed for putting your family and the lives of others on the line each and every time you hook up and hit the road. Shame on you.
I say if it works for you that is good enough and if others don’t like it that is their problem not yours.
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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07-03-2013, 03:05 PM
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#84
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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No, no.....it's.
"Bless your heart, you poor thing". 
Bob
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07-03-2013, 03:15 PM
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#85
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Join Date: Nov 2011
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LOL: I was paraphrasing, that's my story and I am sticking to it.
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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07-03-2013, 03:26 PM
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#86
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Ugh. Please - more light than heat in these discussions - I know we're all capable of that....
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07-04-2013, 02:58 AM
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#87
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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At the risk of sounding like a broken record...although I would like to one day own a ProPride (I saw a youTube video of Sean looking at a website where Hensley was bad-mouthing the ProPride- not cool) I STILL don't think I am endangering myself or others by towing with the Equal-i-zer. I will run what I brung and be thankful to have it. Fellow 'Streamers with Reese, EazLift, Andersen, or whatever brand I still love ya and hope to see you at a campground soon.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
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07-04-2013, 06:44 AM
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#88
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,530
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Without better research of some kind many many will reasonably question most all assertions....
It will go on and on and on....
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07-04-2013, 08:13 AM
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#89
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4 Rivet Member
2002 31' Classic
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 442
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
Without better research of some kind many many will reasonably question most all assertions....
It will go on and on and on....
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Not if one copies my "tongue depressor" model!
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07-04-2013, 08:24 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Some just drop the Airstream on the hitch ball of a sturdy truck and go, and report long trips with no sway, no semi push, feels just fine.
Many hitch users report the same. I've done that, have a ProPride now. I wasn't lying, I was just in the dark.
doug k
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07-04-2013, 08:44 AM
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#91
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Rivet Master
2008 27' International FB
Petaluma
, California
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,364
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
Hope distributing my weight in this thread hasn't caused too much friction. If so, we could go to a round bar for some lubrication over a coupler drinks :-)
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I'm marking this post as illegal for having weigh too many puns in one sentance!
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07-04-2013, 09:14 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
Without better research of some kind many many will reasonably question most all assertions....
It will go on and on and on....
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I beg to differ....many,many won't/don't question all assertions. 
It's not the research that's lacking, it's the astute application of un-common sense, supplied by those who have travelled a little further down that road.
It's not rocket science, your towing a trailer after all.
We towed an AS for 18 Seasons without ever knowing about this site, I guess it was just plain dumb luck that we made it thru unscathed, or possibly, just maybe.....not. 
Bob
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07-04-2013, 12:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2012
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my point is that independent research helps reduce uncertainty about various claims...
Im sold on the "best" hitch because I think that it will be an excellent hitch based on multitude of reviews, I have the money, and it will give me perhaps some peace of mind....
Having said that...my guess is that for various truck/trailer combinations, it is quite plausible? that certain hitches could work, be very safe, etc...
"It's not rocket science, your towing a trailer after all. "
The scientific method applies to all truth claims, not just rocket science of course 
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07-04-2013, 01:53 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Ahhh.....all science is truth.
Sorry, I didn't realize that fact.
Bob
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07-04-2013, 02:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Never said all science is truth - but it helps get answers
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07-04-2013, 03:52 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2002 31' Classic
Houston
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
Never said all science is truth - but it helps get answers
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Scientific experiment: Fabricate "tongue depressor" Hensley model and literally FEEL the results  .
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07-04-2013, 05:39 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2002 31' Classic
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Correction: 4 Sided Problem S/B 4 Bar Problem
For what its worth I dug into my archives and found the article concerning the Hensley hitch geometry. I misspoke calling it a "4 Sided Problem" when it is actually called a "4 Bar Problem. Below I have attached the file for scrutiny:
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07-04-2013, 05:52 PM
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#98
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2012
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I saw a Hensley video where he had it set up and showed how there can be no movement initiated from behind the hitch - it is most impressive
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07-04-2013, 05:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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How difficult would a self install be ?
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07-04-2013, 06:08 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
How difficult would a self install be ?
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Not hard at all...
Took about 2hours study and 3hrs work.
But having the system laid out in front of you makes it much easier getting familiar with the names of all the unusual looking parts. 
Bob
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