New Tow Vehicle

Devoman · 10-12-2005, 06:40 AM

Well...I got another new tow vehicle yesterday.It is the same kind (VW Touareg)but this time I got one that is fully loaded.I had to many problems with the other one.
The first one was a V6 w/o Air suspension.The new new one has it all and I can truly say that the Bambi is happier with a V8 pulling it.
I will post some pics whenever possible but will be soon.

Silvertwinkie · 10-12-2005, 07:26 AM

The V8 is really the way to go. Having towed a 19' Bambi, I can say first hand that even a small block V8 just has more meat to it and is and all around better idea for hauling a near 5,000lb coach....and if you're gonna do it, why not do it in style...the T is a real luxo ride.

overlander63 · 10-12-2005, 08:49 AM

You will probably get close to the same fuel mileage you get now, as you are not adding that much weight to the T-reg with the V8. There is another forum member that has a T-reg for a tow vehicle, I am not sure, but I think he has the V8 in his also. I have PM'ed with him a few times, he seems very well satisfied with it.

Silvertwinkie · 10-12-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by overlander63

There is another forum member that has a T-reg for a tow vehicle, I am not sure, but I think he has the V8 in his also. I have PM'ed with him a few times, he seems very well satisfied with it.

Not sure if yer referring to xray, but he's also happy as a clam with his T-Rex towing his 22' CCD.

Westfalia · 10-12-2005, 10:02 AM

Yep, it's Xray. He's currently having exhaust in the cabin problems that are prevent him from driving it. I do know that he is happy with the V8 and the 22'.

The rest of us, including platbr, are stuck in V6's.

The V6 does a very good job of towing the Bambi. However, it does lack in power and speed at high altitudes.

Devo, when do we get some pictures?

Tom Nugler · 10-12-2005, 01:28 PM

Having driven a few 'Regs, the 8 gives you about 80 more Ft/lbs of torque (302) than the 6.
While the V-10s are rare the torque is 550 at 2000 rpms. Anyone heard of someone towing with one. Solo they are a real kick in the pants coming off from a stop.

Tom.

Devoman · 10-12-2005, 08:56 PM

Since I have gotten it,I have been tearing the other stuff I bought for the previous Touareg and putting them on the new one.The things I got for the other one is only about 2 years old and still looks good(garage kept them nice and clean.)I should be finished here tomorrow and will take some pics for everyone to see.I think I got a pretty cool color outside and inside the vehicle.Only draw back is that the interior is going to get very dirty looking because it is of a tan color.
Gas wise for now it only has 40 mile on the vehicle so I will see in the future as to how much of a difference their is in MPG once it is broken in.It is not really that bad though.Still seems to use just as much gas as the V6.That is a good thing.

One thing though is that when I pulled my Bambi with the V6 it pulled it like a champ.Yes it is slugish at the very start but once you get up to speed a bit it runs smooth as butter.Sometimes I would have to look every now and then just to make sure it was behind me.
Then again I live in florida and everything is flat so no huge hills or mountains to climb.I can understand that climbing the mountains are a bit different than what I am used to.

uwe · 10-12-2005, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Westfalia

However, it does lack in power and speed at high altitudes.

So does my Suburban, btw. And many other tow vehicles I have heard about.

j54mark · 10-12-2005, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by uwe

So does my Suburban, btw. And many other tow vehicles I have heard about.

One (of several) deciding factors in purchasing my Chevy k2500 Duramax was the turbocharger. Nice to have when you are towing at 9,000 ft.

Mark

Westfalia · 10-13-2005, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by uwe

So does my Suburban, btw. And many other tow vehicles I have heard about.

Uwe, when you start at 8100 ft, you are doubly screwed! I tow the bambi loaded with gear at 25 mph at about 11,110 ft on the west Eisenhower tunnel approach on I-70. I don't need to fly, by 25 mph is too slow, at least for my tastes.

overlander63 · 10-13-2005, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Westfalia

Uwe, when you start at 8100 ft, you are doubly screwed! I tow the bambi loaded with gear at 25 mph at about 11,110 ft on the west Eisenhower tunnel approach on I-70. I don't need to fly, by 25 mph is too slow, at least for my tastes.

Is the T-Reg available now with a turbo or supercharger? That would also make a big difference at high altitudes.

uwe · 10-13-2005, 10:05 AM

What about their Diesel version? Wasn't there a V10 Turbo Diesel on the drawing boards?

Westfalia · 10-13-2005, 12:29 PM

There are turbo and super kits that are starting to show up on the market. However, a V6 is still a V6, and any additional gains you attempt to pull out of it will show up as losses in other areas, namely fuel economy, heat buildup and overall wear and tear. I hear that the V8 has few problems towing, even at altitude. I can appreciate how much a turbo can help you at altitude. My wife's 2.0L TDI turbo-diesel Jetta has a small turbo on it, and it runs just as well at 12,000 ft as it does at 5,000.

Yes, VW did make a 4.9L V10 TDI twin turbo diesel Touareg, and it is a pulling beast with 310HP and 553 Ft. Lb of torque. However, since it is not a truck, it has gotten caught up in EPA emission politics, and is currently not imported. Most of the problem lies with the high sulfur content diesel we have here in the states. The V10 was developed specifically from european low sulfur diesel. However, I have been in the presence of a few of these beasts and the idle quietly and barely smoke on full throttle.

I did have the opportunity to briefly drive a german spec factory prototype 3.0L V6 TDI single turbo diesel, with 225HP and 369 ft. lb. of torque. That's 67 ft lb more torque than the gas V8! It had the V6 fuel econ (measured over the period of a week at an average of about 26) with the power of a V8. Again, this engine was made to run on low sulfur diesel, but even with VW prototype engine management software, it didn't smoke, and was as quiet as a gas engine at almost every RPM.

platbr · 10-13-2005, 12:47 PM

Devoman,

Many congratulations on the V8. No doubt you will enjoy it very much. Did you get it with the hitch or are you moving the hitch from your V6 over? Hopefully not too much work moving from 6 to 8. In any event, I'm sure the air suspension will be great for towing the Bambi.

Keep us informed! Aircooled & I will carry on the V6 contingent (at least until the diesel V6 comes out).