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Old 03-29-2013, 03:57 PM   #43
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Done.

The final decision after too many months driving myself nuts reading everything I can on hitches is.... ProPride.
Good decision. My PP has only been on the trailer for about 6 months now, but I have had 3 trips so far where it paid for itself in spades.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:47 PM   #44
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The factory literature shows a 950 pound tongue weight plus 200 pounds of hitch or a total of 1,150 pounds for the 28 International. My 25FB International showed 833 pounds tongue weight in the literature but showed 1,175 pounds (with the Hensley hitch mounted) on the Shurline scale when I arrived to tow it home.

I strongly suggest a trip across the scales, without the trailer, at a truck stop and discover the load on the Ford axles with you and partner plus your projected stuff and a full tank of gasoline. You can put just the stinger in the bed of the pickup. Your comment of 1,675 pounds useful load means the payload must carefully watched.

If the trailer does come in at 1,150 pounds or more tongue weight, your net payload for passengers and gear in the bed of the pickup would be less than 500 pounds.

The information from the first pass across the scales will serve as the basis for adjusting the trailer and hitch to get weight to the front axle from data on the second pass with the trailer. A third pass with water, supplies and all the stuff in the trailer will then allow the final adjustments for a trip.

At the local Love's truck stop in West Phoenix, the initial pass across the scales is $10. A re-weigh after an adjustment the same day costs $5.

Good luck on getting the rig all setup.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:27 PM   #45
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I'm sure Sean will have provided you with exactly what you need for the best configuration of your trailer and your TV. The instructions that come with the hitch are extremely well done. (And the shipping boxes -- of which there are around 5)....amazing packing! I ended up having the dealer (ODM) install my PP for me at the same time I took delivery of my new trailer. They hadn't done many of these, but one of the installers called Sean with a question or two...and verified that you do (indeed) need a torsion wrench capable of 250 lbs. The dealer went and bought one specifically for my install. Unless you are WAY handy and in pretty substantial physical condition -- or have a strong back and a helper, I'd turn the install over to somebody else. You will want to visit a CAT scale to determine the proper amount of weight distribution. I've found that I can fine-tune pretty easily with the original setting as a baseline. You're going to love your new trailer and trust me -- you will not regret the outlay that your ProPride demanded. It's worth every penny, which you'll see the first time you have an 18 wheeler blow by at 75 MPH and your trailer does NOT move. Or you have a cross wind of 35 MPH and your steering wheel feels like I rock.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:11 PM   #46
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Unless you are WAY handy and in pretty substantial physical condition -- or have a strong back and a helper, I'd turn the install over to somebody else.
I'm 80 years old and I installed the hitch by myself with no problem. The instructions are excellent. The hitch worked like a charm the first time out when I towed to a rally in a gusty crosswind..
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Yup, definitely will be doing trips across the scales to get this all dialed in correctly. I know I'm at the max on the payload and Sean recommended the 1400 bars to get enough transferred to the front axle. I'll be picking the hitch up at ProPride and will talk to Sean a bit more about the installation and decide whether I want to do it myself.

The one thing I didn't ask Sean about was whether I need to have the cable and chain extension kit with a current Airstream. Have others found that they need this kit?
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:30 PM   #48
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Yup, definitely will be doing trips across the scales to get this all dialed in correctly. I know I'm at the max on the payload and Sean recommended the 1400 bars to get enough transferred to the front axle. I'll be picking the hitch up at ProPride and will talk to Sean a bit more about the installation and decide whether I want to do it myself.

The one thing I didn't ask Sean about was whether I need to have the cable and chain extension kit with a current Airstream. Have others found that they need this kit?
I needed the extensions for chains and power cord.

Sean knows his business in recommendation of correct bars. I used 600# bars on Reese dual-cam. I use 1000# bars with Propride. I have a 6300# gross Safari 25. Propride uses bars for weight distribution only. Reese dual-cam depends on bar tension for sway control and weight distribution.
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I also have the 1400 lb bars. I didn't need an extension for the 7 pin connector, but the safety chain needed lengthening.
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The stock Hensley required the safety chain and 7 conductor cord extensions when using the Dodge. The Mercedes used the wireless brake controller from Tekonsa which had it's own long cord.
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:20 PM   #51
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Safety chain upgrades are worth reading. The thread in re cables versus chains is to the point. What grades and sizes, attachment points, etc.
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Old 04-03-2013, 07:33 AM   #52
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I just bought a Pro Pride myself asking the question of which hitch to buy- like you. My previous hitch was inexpensive and worked OK until I got new tires on the tow vehicle then I had moderate sway. Basically, from what I read, you have several friction based anti sway hitches and then your Hensley and Pro Pride. The two were designed by the same guy. The Hensley is the original design. Over the years, he redesigned to add improvements and created the Pro Pride. The basic mechanism is similar in operation.
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...a bit of reinforcement for the PP. I just returned from a 6,300 mile 4 week trip. I had about four days of crosswinds in NW Texas and SW New Mexico, at times the guests were above 30 MPH. While I could feel it, at no time did I feel major insecurity (though I cut my speed back, which anyone would do). One evening I was having a conversation with a guy who'd been on the same road in his SOB with a conventional hitch. He said he was in major stages of panic...and pulled over for awhile. I think the stability of the pivot mechanism coupled with optimum weight distribution makes a huge difference when you are dealing with crosswinds.
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BAB, did you dial in the hitch at the scales? It's days with winds like those or the thought of narrow highways with oncoming 18-wheelers where those last little bits are telling. If I missed that info, forgive the question . . I tend to think there is always room for improvement. And I have sometimes found them. I travel at 58-mph so a slowdown is not done, but the "vagaries" (let us call it) of wind-handling are always of interest per rig feel.

There is just no substitute for a VPP hitch.


Heckuva trip by the way.

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After two other hitches got a Propride. Best money we have spent on the Airstream.

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