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Old 03-04-2009, 07:42 PM   #15
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Kevin...some time ago you stated this about the 78 minuet: "originally, the tongue, banana wraps, and rear bumper would have been painted a highly metallic copper"...
Is this true of the '79 6.0? I have never seen any of the original pictures in old ads that show other than the same color of the unit in total. My '79 was, as common, manufactured in '78. I would appreciate your thinking. Thanks a lot, Dan
Argosy departed from what had been their practice in exterior color schemes. They added the belt-line stripes that were color coordintaed to the interior -- Orange/Rust, Green, or Blue. With this chnage the rest of the coach became a solid color. The on issue that I don't know the answer for is the color of the vinyl inserts on the coaches with the Green striping.

My understanding is that the highly metallic Orange/Copper lower trim color was used only in 1978. I was told the first time that I tried to get the color matched that the paint contained lead and would be difficult to match with current paints. Now, the Chevrolet Colorado pickups have a very close match to the 1978 Orange/Copper.

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Old 03-04-2009, 07:50 PM   #16
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Here is the repaint on our 78.
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Old 03-04-2009, 08:07 PM   #17
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Greetings Juel!

Your post jogged my memory and I went back and double-checked my literature -- my comments apply only to the 1978 and 1979 Minuets -- the standard coaches had a slightly different interpretation particularly in 1978. The 1978 standard series coaches can be clearly seen in the scan below:



The 1978 Minuet color treatment can be seen in the scan below:



The 1979 Argosy standard coach paint scheme can be seen in the scan below:



The 1979 Minuet paint treatment can be seen in the scan below:




This raised another question for me. I know that the paint striping on the 1979 Minuets was color keyed to the interior chosen, but I am not certain about in the standard Argosy series.

I focus so much on the Minuets that I forget that there were a number of such differences between the two series.

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Saw these today in Athens. The Argosy is really cool inside! The way the front window wraps around is amazing. Its not bad inside I really like the way the cabinet doors work.
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Kevin, Were Argosy standard trailers and the Minuets made for the same time frames (years)? What were the Mfg years for each? I know where there are at least two of these trailers but I don't know the years of mfg or much else about them. Would the exterior markings say Minuet vs. Argosy? The trailers I have located have all been sitting unmoved for at least 10 years in a storage lot. There are a few Airstreams in the lot too! Only one of them ever seems to be used. I really need to get out there again and check them out closer. I know that one of the coaches say Argosy 24 on the side to the right of the cabin door. Ed
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Old 03-05-2009, 01:24 AM   #20
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Greetings Ed!

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Kevin, Were Argosy standard trailers and the Minuets made for the same time frames (years)? What were the Mfg years for each?
The standard first generation Argosy travel trailers were produced from 1972 through 1979. The Argosy Minuets were produced from 1977 through 1979. The Argosy 20 was discontinued during the Minuet run in 1978. The Argosy 20 and Argosy 24 were also apparently discontinued sometime in the 1978 model year allowing the Minuets to have that niche in the market to themselves.

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I know where there are at least two of these trailers but I don't know the years of mfg or much else about them.
The model year is relatively easy to identify if the VIN plaque is still on the front of the coach -- lower right quadrant almost behind the LP tanks. The VIN decodes as follows:

20D8V####

20 = Coach Length in Feet
D (or) T = Main Sleeping Accommodation -- D=Double == T=Twin
8 = Last Digit of Model Year
V (or) S = Plant of Manufacture -- V=Versailles, OH -- S=Cerritos, CA
#### = Sequential Production Number

The 6.0 Metre Minuets were registered as 20s; the 6.7 Metre Minuets were registered as 22s; and the 7.3 Metres were registered as 24s.

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Would the exterior markings say Minuet vs. Argosy? The trailers I have located have all been sitting unmoved for at least 10 years in a storage lot.
The Minuets carry a badge on each side of the coach. I believe that this was consistent for all three model years. It is a rectangular casting in the belt-line trim strip. If you have access to the interior, the width across the floor should be 7' if the coach is an unmarked Minuet.

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There are a few Airstreams in the lot too! Only one of them ever seems to be used. I really need to get out there again and check them out closer. I know that one of the coaches say Argosy 24 on the side to the right of the cabin door. Ed
The Argosy 24 definitely identifies that coach as a standard line as the Minuets always, at least to my knowledge, were maked using their metric lengths.

An Argosy 22 and a Minuet 6.7 Metre would be easy to separate by physical appearance -- the Argosy 22 was tandem axle while the Minet 6.7 was single axle.

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Old 03-07-2009, 08:53 PM   #21
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Kevin, Thanks for the reply. I hope to get back to the storage area after I return from my trip to SW Michigan job that starts Monday March 9th. I will let you know what I find out on these coaches as to year and size. Ed
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:34 PM   #22
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Can anyone tell me the proper paint color code for the off white exterior paint and the copper colored trim? Also, where can I get the replacement orange plastic insert at the belt line and above the bottom copper paint on my 78 Argosy 27'? Thanks,
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:31 PM   #23
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Greetings SeaWolf!

Welcome to the Forums and the world of Vintage Argosy ownership!

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Can anyone tell me the proper paint color code for the off white exterior paint and the copper colored trim? Also, where can I get the replacement orange plastic insert at the belt line and above the bottom copper paint on my 78 Argosy 27'? Thanks,
First, the easiest answer is to where to locate the orange belt-line and rub-rail inserts -- any Airstream dealer or Authorized Airstream Repair Center should be able to order what you need if they don't already have it in stock.

Second, the only code that I have seen for the copper color trim is way off. My local auto paint store suggested that the problem was that the original paint had lead and when lead was removed from the formula that it was difficult to get the same richness in the color. While at the paint store, I checked out the factory paint chips for recent GMs and Fords -- the copper color used on the Chevrolet Canyon pickups in 2006-2008 is so very close to the original Argosy tone.

Third, the most recent paint codes mentioned for the off-white are a very good match to the original paint on my Minuet. The entire group of codes that Charlie Burke posted to the Vintage Airstream List several years ago is as follows:

Upper body color: DuPont Centari #44534-A Light Beige

Lower banana skin: Lilly Coatings #7641-A Metallic Brown
(this bottom color various with different models-this
was appropriate for the 1976 Argosy, 24 ft.)

The original colors were provided by Lilly Industrial Coatings. In 1988
Airstream published a list of Dupont Centari substitute numbers. Based on
that list the Argosy colors through 1977 were:

Upper--Light Beige 44534-A

Lower--Metallic Brown 44721-AM


Good luck with your project!

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I did not know that Argosy could have had an aluminum composite floor.
How were they built? ect..
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How were they built? ect..
The aluminum composite flooring was basically two sheets of aluminum with a layer of rigid insulation bonded between them. The floors were attached to the chassis with rows of rivets. My understanding is that the shell is attached to the composite flooring in much the same manner as in a coach with plywood floors.

Thus far, it seems that composite floors were utilized in quite a few of the 6.0 Metre Minuets and a very few of the 6.7 Metre Minuets.

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Thank you very much for the info. It is very usefull.
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