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Old 02-04-2004, 01:50 PM   #71
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What about effect vs affect...and there constant mis-use?

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No Shari, there is no mis-use... merely misuse... <chuckle>

(sorry... couldn't help myself...)

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Effective affects

EFFECT vs. AFFECT

Rule 1. Use effect when you mean bring about or brought about, cause or caused.

Example He effected a commotion in the crowd.

Rule 2. Use effect when you mean result.

Example What effect did that speech have?

Rule 3. Also use effect whenever any of these words precede it: a, an, the, no, any, take, into.

NOTE: These words may be separated from effect by an adjective.

Examples That book had a long-lasting effect on my thinking.

Has the medicine produced any noticeable effects?

Rule 4. If none of the above fit, use affect.
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slow day at the office roger?....
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I just read about a Espar (sp) hot water heater and it is a hot water heater.

It's a Deisel or gas boiler system that heats a antifreeze mix for produce both Hot water through a water to water heat exchange. It also is sued to heat air AND it can be plumbed int othe cooling system to preheat a engine. VERY slick set up. Might have to look into one of these if I build my U1300 Mini (actually it's rather large) motor home.

So there you go...a "Hot water heater".
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Old 02-04-2004, 02:32 PM   #75
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Why do you think I waited so long to post to this thread?

Thanks Ken ~ I hope everybody sees your explaination...I see it wrong all the time!

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Old 02-04-2004, 03:27 PM   #76
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Ken....get out the grammar books. your #1 is wrong.

affect (def "To have an influence on or effect a change in".

affect is a verb; effect is a noun.
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1. Two vultures board an airplane, each carrying two dead raccoons. The stewardess looks at them and says, "I'm sorry, gentlemen, only one carrion allowed per passenger."

2. Two fish swim into a concrete wall. The one turns to the other and says "Dam!"..

3. Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, so lit a fire in the craft. Unsurprisingly it sank, proving once again that you can't have your kayak and heat it too.

4. Two hydrogen atoms meet. One says "I've lost my electron." The other says "Are you sure?" The first replies "Yes, I'm positive."

5. Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain during a root canal? He wanted to transcend dental medication.

6. A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and were standing in the lobby discussing their recent tournament victories. After about
an hour, the manager came out of the office and asked them to disperse. "But why?" they asked, as they moved off. "Because", he said, "I can't stand chess- nuts boasting in an open foyer."

7. A woman has twins and gives them up for adoption. One of them goes to a family in Egypt and is named Ahmal." The other goes to a family in Spain; they name him "Juan." Years later, Juan sends a picture of himself to his birth mother. Upon receiving the picture, she tells her husband that she wishes she also had a picture of Ahmal. Her husband responds, "They're twins! If you've seen Juan, you've seen Ahmal."

8. These friars were behind on their belfry payments, so they opened up a small florist shop to raise funds. Since everyone liked to buy flowers from the men of God, a rival florist across town thought the competition was unfair. He asked the good fathers to close down, but they would not. He went back and begged the friars to close. They ignored him. So, the rival florist hired Hugh MacTaggart, the roughest and most vicious thug in town to "persuade" them to close. Hugh beat up the friars and trashed their store, saying he'd be back if they didn't close up shop. Terrified, they did so, thereby proving that Hugh, and only Hugh, can prevent florist friars.

9. Mahatma Ghandi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which produced an impressive set of callouses on his feet. He also ate very little, which made him rather frail and with his odd diet, he suffered from bad breath. This made him...(Oh, man, this is so bad, it's good)... a super calloused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.

10. And finally, there was the person who sent ten different puns to
his friends with the hope that at least one of the puns would make them
laugh.

No pun in ten did.

Sorry...I had to edit out all the ">'s"
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Hot water

So, after a very inaffective attempt by others, this thread is back on tract.
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Re: Hot water

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So, after a very inaffective attempt by others, this thread is back on tract.
Oooohhh... Mark! Very smooth, very subtle... well done!

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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA with a couple of Groans thrown in. I especially like number 9. or:

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Hmmmmm I think my hot water heater is on the fritz...

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Now if we could only imbed rim shots after each pun.

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Post I disagree with 59Toaster

A boiler is generally described as an enclosed container in which water is heated, or a storage tank for hot water.

The purpose of the Espar (sp) boiler system is to produce hot water. The hot water is useful to preheat an engine and also, through the use of a heat exchanger, provide heated air for creature comfort.

The Espar (sp) boiler system begins with water that needs to be heated and heats it to a useful state. It does not heat hot water, but it does heat ‘warm’ water any time the temperature of the water in the boiler drops below the desired water temperature setting when the system is active. Warm water is defined as water at any temperature below a desired temperature; hence warm water in a boiler is not hot water. If it were “hot water” the boiler would not be necessary and we would have an endless source of free energy stored as hot water.

In my humble opinion, the Espar (sp) people are guilty of improperly describing their product.

MAXANDGEORGIA, did your class reach a conclusion?

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Almost

You almost had me convinced but I chose to research and straight from The Merriam-Webster DIctionary

effect, noun, 1: result 2: meaning, intent 3: appearance 4: fulfillment 5: reality 6: influence 7: pl. Goods, Possesions 8: The quality or state of being operative : operation SYN consequence, outcome, upshot

effect, verb, 1: accomplish 2: repairs

effective, adjective, 1: producing a decided, decisive ot desired effect 2: impressive, striking 3: rready for service or action 4: being in effect

effectual, adjective, 1: producing an intended effect: adequate

effectuate: verb, 1: to bring about: effect

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