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12-23-2014, 03:07 PM
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#221
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Rivet Master
2020 25' Flying Cloud
Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 533
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
asking if she and her husband could borrow the truck...
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When I bought my pick up, a good friend of mine in the community warned me that everybody would be asking me to borrow it, and if I refused, would get quite nasty about it. So I had the chance to think about it before the first person asked. I decided that I would only loan it if I was ready and willing to sue the person I loaned it to who damaged it in any way. That leaves out family, close friends, and people in the clergy--any of whom would feel the chutzpah to ask, but none of whom I could sue. And then a guy I'm pretty friendly with asked if he could borrow it to pick up furniture; I said "No, but I'll drive you." That was fine. But the second time he asked, a week later, I was busy, so I couldn't drive him and of course I wouldn't loan him the truck. He has not talked to me since. Boy did I learn a good lesson. The answer now is just "no."
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12-23-2014, 03:59 PM
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#222
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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A simple firm no without any explanation or justification is best, IMHO
I don't loan out trucks or power tools without me driving either.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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12-23-2014, 05:19 PM
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#223
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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I concur. I don't have to justify my decision. Because I said so is good enough.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
Airforums #70955
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12-23-2014, 06:05 PM
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#224
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
ottawa (greely)
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 390
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Simply no😁
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2012 silverado ext cab 4x4 ,5.3 L , 6 speed trans,3:42 final drive,tow package standard box 6 1/2 foot . 2014 honda forza 300 scooter, #2 2015 honda crf 250 L (Dual sport)
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12-24-2014, 09:07 AM
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#225
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3 Rivet Member
2013 30' Flying Cloud
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 159
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Uh, "are you speaking to me?"
Reading this thread again has been fun and instructive. So many are so darned polite.
Then it came to mind that many gentle souls felt it necessary to apologize to the rude motherless sons who asked to borrow their little silver house. Eh? Who then were rude when declined. Eh?
Well yes civility is the partial reason we aren't dueling today. That's a public health hazard eliminated.
Still, however it needs to be said, "No, thank you."
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Speed is Life . . . guidance is optional . . .
The Traveling Circus: 2013 Flying Cloud 30A; 2006 Chevy Duramax Crew/LWB
Air #42313 TAC VA-7 WBCCI #1290
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12-24-2014, 11:57 AM
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#226
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NO HUMBLE OPINION
1968 20' Globetrotter
ANN ARBOR
, THE GREAT LAKES
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 670
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I guess, as individuals, we are free to set our boundaries and tolerate their consequences.
I have a neighbor with whom I've generously, and often unknowingly, shared anything I have. He killed my Ariens lawnmower, I found my never returned Norlund axe with a broken handle in his shed, I came home one day to discover that the burning smell wafting through the neighborhood was my worm-drive Skilsaw, and... he doesn't know why my Snap-on torque wrench doesn't click anymore. The list goes on...
Even tho he gave me a set of keys to his new Tacoma, I coldly said NO, with no explanation, when he asked if he could borrow the Airstream.
I gifted him a new Harbor Freight axe, re-handled, and hid mine. I've never used his truck.
We're still “walk to the end of the earth for each other” friends.
Conspicuously posted in my shop, this always gets a chuckle.
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12-25-2014, 09:18 AM
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#227
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2 Rivet Member
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Apple Valley
, California
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 30
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Borrow tools?............O.K.
Use a guitar?.............Yup
Shoot my guns?.........Help yourself
Need a kidney?..........No problemo
Use my AS?..............N.F.W.
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12-25-2014, 05:35 PM
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#228
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King of the Zebra Speedo
Obrien
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,439
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Yes, no, no, no, NFW... There, that's better.
-Red, stopping at loaning out tools, and then, only cheap ones...
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02-24-2015, 06:53 PM
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#229
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3 Rivet Member
1994 34' Limited
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 208
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nope, never happen. If someone was a good enough friend that they had the right to ask I would give them the money for a hotel or an actual rental RV if they were in a financial bind.
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02-24-2015, 10:27 PM
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#230
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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My youngest son, the original owner, can borrow the family AS anytime he has full insurance on it. The rest of the immediate family...I'd have to think about that idea, and it's probably "...only if I come along to tow and operate it..."
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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02-25-2015, 08:36 AM
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#231
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,223
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We took my wife's 90 year old father visiting from the UK on a five day road trip to visit three of his granddaughters.
We learned that our trailer is just fine for the two of us, but an older third guest was a challenge.
We had the "aha" moment and have decided this is a trailer build for two.
The second owner will do as they please, but no loaning out for me, period.
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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02-25-2015, 09:16 AM
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#232
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1 Rivet Member
2008 23' Safari FB SE
Charlottesville
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 15
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It's a careless question to ask. You wouldn't ask a friend to borrow his hatteras. No one has asked me to borrow the airstream, and if the time does come, I'll try real hard not to laugh
It's such a weird question!!
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03-23-2015, 03:29 PM
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#233
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2 Rivet Member
2002 27' Safari
Porterdale
, Georgia
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 44
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You may look at it admiringly, but that's about it . . . Wait! Is that a finger print????? Where's my polishing cloth . . .
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03-23-2015, 07:43 PM
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#234
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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I loaned my trailer to my son several months ago, I ended up having to fix some things that I knew were marginal before I loaned the trailer...
But I will loan it again if the need arrises.
1/2 Ton 4WD Truck, 72 Sovereign Hensley Arrow
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03-23-2015, 08:12 PM
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#235
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3 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
laguna beach
, California
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 138
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No chance in hell! While laughing hysterically!
Ford F-350 crew cab 4X4 diesel, 25' Jack Bauer edition AS
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03-23-2015, 08:55 PM
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#236
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4 Rivet Member
1973 Argosy 26
1966 30' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Southern
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 273
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I have a small handull of people in "my circle of trust" (think Robert Deniro here) but mostly just 2 friends that I would loan it to. But I know that they value things (even other people's) but that's it!
My ex-wife's husband (of all of 4 days at the time) asked me if they could borrow my Suburban for a 1200 mile trip last Summer. Ummm...NO!!! I wouldn't even let you borrow my vehicle for a Home Depot trip.
People get way too presumptive about "borrowing" things...the whole "well, you aren't using it right now. so, why can't I?"
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03-23-2015, 09:39 PM
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#237
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Rivet Master
2024 23' Flying Cloud
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 502
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No.
Cannonball, Deep in the Heart of Texas!
WBCCI #4387, Air #84080
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04-07-2015, 12:27 PM
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#238
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2 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Rochester
, Minnesota
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 76
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There are three people my husband and I put on an approved list of friends/family that we would consider loaning our Airstream to. One of which saw our trailer and loved it. Then, instead of asking, he went out and bought his own.
We loved his response and realize now that he pretty much ruined it for the other two. You want to travel in an Airstream? Me too. That's why I bought one.
For anyone else that may ever ask, I would simply laugh. And laugh. Then reply with, "Oh. You're serious?"
Uh, no.
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If I only had a dollar for every time I got distracted, I wish I had a puppy.
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04-07-2015, 02:16 PM
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#239
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Rivet Master
1976 31' Sovereign
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,017
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There is a old saying I do not loan any thing but every thing is for sale except for wife you can have her... I will be in trouble when she finds out this old saying, but she does not read forums. Bill
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04-07-2015, 03:16 PM
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#240
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Rivet Master
1978 25' Tradewind
Metro Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,524
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My daughter actually asked to borrow it one time. I asked if she had an electric brake controller on her truck.
"A what?"
"Sorry!"
It's not just knowing how to tow it and set it up; it's knowing the absolute best way to fix it when it breaks. Someone would have to be a journeyman millwright, electrician, big rig driver, and RV mechanic for me to even consider it.
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