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07-19-2012, 10:59 AM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
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Do you have an integrated brake controller?
How's it working out for you?
There were some early reports of compatibility problems particularly with hydraulic brakes. Aside from that, how are these products working out there out in the real world?
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07-19-2012, 12:21 PM
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Mine works very well. The newest latest and greatest integratedcontrollers give the option of electric, or eletric bydraulic.
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07-19-2012, 12:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 23' Safari
Perrysburg
, Ann Arbor
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I've got one on my '08 GMC Duramax pickup. I have several trailers - only one here relevant is a '99 Safari 23'. All my trailers have electric drum brakes. All work very well indeed.
The onboard brake controller reads actual brake master cylinder pressure ... that is, it reads how hard you are pressing on the brake pedal (including power assist). Thus there is not the lag that can accompany controllers that read tow vehicle deceleration. No lag, right-now response. I'm quite pleased with my setup. I do understand that if you have a Kodiak or similar disc brake system, you have to do a little "trickery" to make the brake controller "see" the trailer brakes, inasmuch as it is looking for inductive impedance, and as I understand it, the Kodiak type system does not present a sufficient load to the controller to be recognized. This is my understanding only, no actual experience.
Others may have had other experiences, but I'll never go back to an aftermarket controller ... this is just too simple and reliable.
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07-19-2012, 02:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
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I also have an '08 GMC Duramax, and the integrated brake controller is the best I've had.
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07-19-2012, 05:53 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 19' Safari SE
Seal Beach
, California
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My 2010 Ford F-150 has an integrated brake controller. It works seamlessly in general, and can be adjusted for long downgrades, to shift more of the braking burden to the trailer brakes, if necessary.
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07-19-2012, 06:16 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
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We have a 2011 Silverado. The integrated trailer brake controller works great with our Airstream's electric brakes.
Brian
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09-23-2012, 10:49 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2006 30' Classic
Yonkers
, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
We have a 2011 Silverado. The integrated trailer brake controller works great with our Airstream's electric brakes.
Brian
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Brian,
Did you do anything to your factory integrated brake controller on your 2011 GMC for it to work with your AS?. Mine on 2012 Denali Duramax is not working on my 2006 Classic with hydraulic ActiBrake / Disc brakes. Any help will be heatedly appreciated . Thanks
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09-23-2012, 02:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Garden Valley
, Idaho
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My 2008 F-250 has integrated brake and it has always worked no matter which trailer I am pulling. That pluss the up-fitter switches, are a really neat item. My '08 could have ordered the backup camera and I chose not to order it, in retrospect, I should have.
Pap
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09-23-2012, 02:25 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2006 30' Classic
Milton
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
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2010 Ford ITBC
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammer
How's it working out for you?
There were some early reports of compatibility problems particularly with hydraulic brakes. Aside from that, how are these products working out there out in the real world?
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Our 2010 FORD ITBC works flawlessly on our Dexter hydraulic disc brake system.
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2006 30' Classic
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2010 FORD F-250, ITBC, 6.8 liter V-10 gas, with VIAIR on-board air system
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10-06-2012, 08:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Upper St Clair
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We had one on our F150 and have one now on our F250 Diesel, both worked and work fine without issue. As noted in another post one can adjust while moving simply by pushing a + of - button.
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10-06-2012, 10:20 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari
saline
, Michigan
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Our 2011 Silverado's controller works great and is easily accessible to the driver. One thing important about the integrated ones on GM's is that they have "stabiltrak" or whatever it's called. It allows the truck's computer to apply brakes on one side of both the tow vehicle and trailer when one encounters an unstable condition such as sway. I questioned a friend of mine who is an engineer at GM and who works on that system and he says it works pretty well. You can't get that with an after market controller, I don't believe.
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10-07-2012, 09:07 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2006 30' Classic
Milton
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
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How Does this Work?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosm1o
... It allows the truck's computer to apply brakes on one side of both the tow vehicle and trailer when one encounters an unstable condition such as sway. ...
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I do not understand how this would be possible on my 2006 Classic with hydraulic disc brakes. The E/H hydraulic actuator powers all four wheel brakes simultaneously, and there is no provision for selecting individual wheels.
How is this possible on electric brakes? Are there two seperate signal wires going from the tow vehicle to the trailer?
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2006 30' Classic
Dexter hydraulic disc brake system
Centramatics wheel balancing & Dill TPMS
Hensley hitch & Maxim skylights
Voyager Camera System WVOS713
2010 FORD F-250, ITBC, 6.8 liter V-10 gas, with VIAIR on-board air system
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10-07-2012, 09:38 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari
saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 410
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I will have to ask when I see him next time.
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10-07-2012, 12:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
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Our 2012 (Dodge) Ram Express has the ITBC, which also displays operation on the instrument panel vehicle info center. It has settings for light and heavy trailer electric, and electric-hydraulic brakes. Operation is convenient and so far works nicely.
I doubt the electronic sway control operates trailer brakes, but it does reduce engine speed and apply separate brake pressure as needed. If these were applied with some strength, the reduction in vehicle speed would activate the inertia-based brake controller proportionally to apply trailer braking, thereby also reducing trailer sway.
Good system to have for extensive trailer use.
doug k
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10-07-2012, 12:47 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari
saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2010
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The GM website says that it does by auto braking the trailer brakes. It applies brakes on the tv on each brake independently of the others in order to maintain control. The question is does it do that on trailer brakes too? As another post said , I don't see how, but clearly it can apply the trailer brakes without driver input if needed. That is how I read it in the GM description of Stabiltrack and Trailer Sway Control.
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