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04-08-2008, 03:44 PM
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#121
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1 Rivet Member
2004 25' Classic
Dardenne Prairie
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14
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Classic 25 new flooring project-Part 3
The installation went well using the Konnecto flooring as you can see from the pictures below.
I started on the street-side of the trailer and moved to the center hallway, and then under the kitchen unit and the entryway. I ensured each strip remained parallel to the centerline marking on the subfloor.
I found that using the sheet plastic protectors between each strip worked very well to keep the over-edge glue from sticking to the next strip. I did pull one or two up and re-stick but was uncomfortable each time I did it.
All that remains is the installation of some quarter-round and trim pieces as needed.
Will keep all in the loop with the final installation and completion of the project as soon as my days off permit. This is a project anyone can do with some good help from here on the forum and a few basic tools.
I did find that 10% scrap overage was more than needed. In fact, my 25 ft. used only about 3 3/4 boxes. I believe RoadToaster used 5 boxes for his 28 ft.
Don..........
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04-09-2008, 04:27 PM
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#122
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Rivet Master
1973 31' Sovereign
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,255
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Your install looks really nice! What kind of temperature did you have for your installation work?
Malcolm
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04-10-2008, 04:53 AM
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#123
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1 Rivet Member
2004 25' Classic
Dardenne Prairie
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14
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The installation days were in the low 60's. I could not find any recommended temperature from Konnecto, I suspect too hot or too cold probably introduces their own problems. Hopefully, my installed flooring will hold up well. I really like the quality of the materials. I will say that the warmer the material, the easier it was to cut.
Don....
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04-12-2008, 12:31 PM
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#124
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Hypnotist
1982 28' Airstream 280
las vegas
, Nevada
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 47
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Floors
While I see most everyone on this thread is installing floors in trailers. I just installed Bamboo in my 280 Turbo deisel so I figured I would post some pics and thoughts on another flooring type. img057.jpgimg059.jpgimg060.jpgimg061.jpgimg063.jpg
I put carpet in the drivers area panel trim and the toliet area in the bathroom
When I first laid the bamboo flooring I put it long wise. What I found is that as the floor moves the pieces had a tendency to seperate slightly and cause gaps... So cursing I did it side to side.... There is more waste that way however the instalation in the rv went much smoother
The bamboo is from lowes and I used a premium underlayment a bit thicker and has almost a felt backing...
Before I laid any flooring I waterproofed and polyurathaned any exposed wood in the rv
I also replaced wood floor panels in the drivers area.....
Currently I am building a new false wall where the dinette used to be and building a new table as well ...
Justin
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04-12-2008, 01:04 PM
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#125
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Rivet Master
2019 30' Classic
Byhalia
, Mississippi
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Nice job Silver Wings. Looks great. Be sure and post again when completely finished. I'll be interested in your comments regarding any diffuculty in installling quarter round.
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05-08-2008, 01:23 PM
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#126
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1 Rivet Member
2004 25' Classic
Dardenne Prairie
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14
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Classic 25 new flooring project - Final
To all:
Sorry the final installment took a while for me to post. I did finish the project with help from the forums (Special thanks to RoadToaster). This project can be done by anyone with a little time and basic hand tools. Happy to answer any questions anyone has.
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05-08-2008, 03:45 PM
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#127
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E Pluribus Aluminus
2008 34' Classic S/O
1967 22' Safari
2005 30' Classic
Land Of Enchantment
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,300
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Wow, great looking job, SW!! BTW, how much weight did the Konecto flooring add?
Bill
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05-09-2008, 06:16 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2004 25' Classic
Dardenne Prairie
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14
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I would guess about 30 pounds difference between the carpet and pad, and the flooring. Don't think we will ever go back to carpet.
Don.......
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05-09-2008, 01:48 PM
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E Pluribus Aluminus
2008 34' Classic S/O
1967 22' Safari
2005 30' Classic
Land Of Enchantment
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Wings
I would guess about 30 pounds difference between the carpet and pad, and the flooring. Don't think we will ever go back to carpet.
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I can see why - the new flooring looks exceptional. We're debating the vinyl "wood plank" flooring and actual wood plank like konecto. Want to minimize weight there to have capacity for some other additions. Totally agree as to carpet, can't wait to change it all out.
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WBCCI 7005 * AIR 9218
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05-09-2008, 02:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 30' Classic
Byhalia
, Mississippi
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 821
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SW, the quarter round looks good (as does the entire installation) Someone did a good job of matching!
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05-11-2008, 06:53 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1978 31' Excella 500
1961 26' Overlander
Harmony
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 312
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That looks wonderful; light and clean. We however ended up buying carpet squares. I would have rather had the konecto, but we got the carpet for $1. per foot at a builder's surplus, and with me being in school, we thought it was best to save a bit of money now. Later we can change/upgrade if we decide to.
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06-24-2008, 01:07 PM
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#132
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4 Rivet Member
1976 24' Argosy 24
1999 30' Excella 1000
White Haven
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 402
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Finding Center?
Getting ready to do the TM flooring in our 24ft. Argosy. Still going back and forth over whether to do it lenghtwise or side to side. One thing I can't seem to wrap my head around is how to get an acurate centerline mark. Or, if crosswise, how to get a line parallel. The center of the bath is not the center of the front living area. Any advice would be much apreciated. How does one get a good centerline? Thanks. George
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06-24-2008, 08:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 31' Sovereign
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,255
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Centerline...
Hi George,
First of all I think that it makes sense that a line for laying flooring should take into account the various objects that are visible so that the flooring looks straight with the other things you can see. Also, once your strips are in place it will be impossible to tell which ones were put in in what order. Furthermore the main reason for snapping a center line for laying flooring is so that the pieces on each side of a given area get trimmed about the same amount resulting in things looking even more centered.
Having said all that I suggest that you decide what part of the floor should be aligned the best for visual reasons. If that were the front living area for example then you could look for the center of the living area as far forward as possible in the trailer keeping in mind that the center should be the center of the visible floor and not necessisarily the width of the trailer. You then want to find some consistent point that you can measure from both in the front and further down your hallway. For example if there was a place in front and a place in back where you could measure from the bottom of the actual outer wall then that might be a good reference point.
You should then do one more thing. You should temporarily lay down some flooring pieces aligned with that line and out to the edges of your areas - or measure and mark where they would fall. What you want to know is if the line down the center should be aligned with the center of a strip of flooring or with the joint between flooring strips. You can get a clue as to which this should be by how much you have to trim the side pieces to fit. Ideally you want to have pieces at the sides that are as large as possible.
Relative to whether your floor should be layed cross-wise or length-wise ultimately boils down to your preference. You might temporily lay down some pieces both ways and see what it looks like. As a general flooring rule I believe that strips usually are layed lengthwise with the longer dimension of a room. I don't think there is any particular reason that you must lay all of the flooring in the same direction either by the way. If you do decide to lay your floor cross-wise the same general rules as mentioned above about centering things applies. Maybe you can find something in the front of your trailer that you can measure from. If your old flooring is entirely out you might be able to see a line in the subfloor plywood that you could measure from. They will be be straight across from side to side.
I hope the above helps. I do apologize if I made it sound too complicated. If what I am suggesting does not make enough sense then please ask for more detail.
Malcolm
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06-24-2008, 09:42 PM
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#134
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2 Rivet Member
2002 25' Safari
Long Beach
, California
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 21
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Just had it installed in our 87 25' Sovereign. Torn out the carpet (very hard to keep clean) to just the start of the beds. Flooring looks great. Will let you know how it holds after our trip to Yosemite. Bucky
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07-12-2008, 07:26 AM
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#135
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2 Rivet Member
1972 27' Overlander
Concord
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2005
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I looked at over 20 different types of flooring before redoing mine last year and the only one that met all my requirements was cork. I wanted waterproof, quiet, warm, pretty, flexiable, easy to install, long life span. It did require some underlayment work before install but it seemed all I looked at did. My wife is happy with it and we all know if Momma ain't happy then nobody is.
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07-12-2008, 07:55 AM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
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I looked at a ton of different floors and chose cork also. I'm finishing up the installation today. It's amazing how soft the floor is. I dropped a hammer on it and it didn't make a sound.
We used APC Cork planks. It has a top and bottom cork layer with HDF in between.
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07-14-2008, 07:26 AM
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#137
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4 Rivet Member
1963 24' Tradewind
Anderson / Sun City
, Indiana / Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 444
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TrafficMaster Allure "Cork"
I just finished installing TrafficMaster Allure vinyl plank flooring in a natural Cork finish. I ordered it from Home Depot, as it is not a stocked item.
It looks very real, and is a nice blend between a wood color an an original linoleum. An added benefit is that it feels like cork when you walk on it. An Airstream subfloor is not totally ridgid and the minor flex adds a deminsion a realism to the cork look.
I still need to install aluminum quarter round to finish the job. I will post pictures when I am finsished.
I am using brushed aluminum quarter round because that was very popular among Airstreamers in the 1960's. I found it at ACE Hardware (they had to order because it was not stocked in the store, but stocked in the ACE warehouse).
Mike Brumback
1963 Tradewind
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07-14-2008, 11:08 AM
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#138
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4 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
1956 22' Caravanner
Mendon
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 468
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part number?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grand Master
I just finished installing TrafficMaster Allure vinyl plank flooring in a natural Cork finish. I ordered it from Home Depot, as it is not a stocked item.
It looks very real, and is a nice blend between a wood color an an original linoleum. An added benefit is that it feels like cork when you walk on it. An Airstream subfloor is not totally ridgid and the minor flex adds a deminsion a realism to the cork look.
I still need to install aluminum quarter round to finish the job. I will post pictures when I am finsished.
I am using brushed aluminum quarter round because that was very popular among Airstreamers in the 1960's. I found it at ACE Hardware (they had to order because it was not stocked in the store, but stocked in the ACE warehouse).
Mike Brumback
1963 Tradewind
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What is the part-number of the quarter round at ace?
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07-14-2008, 09:18 PM
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#139
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4 Rivet Member
1963 24' Tradewind
Anderson / Sun City
, Indiana / Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 444
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ACE Hardware Aluminum cove molding
ACE's SKU number is: 5406418
It is described as anodized aluminum cove molding.
$16.99 / 8ft
Mike Brumback
1963 Tradewind
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08-02-2008, 05:44 AM
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#140
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1 Rivet Member
2004 25' Classic
Dardenne Prairie
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14
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Follow up on new flooring installation
To all:
We just returned from five weeks on the road. Spent about :05 minutes cleaning the floor during the entire trip. Whatever floor you decide on, we can assure you that once you take out carpet you will never want it back. The Konnecto flooring is holding up very well so far.
Don.....
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