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08-15-2011, 05:32 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1983 31' Excella
2005 30' Classic
1993 33' Land Yacht
Wellfleet
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Air shocks for Airstream
Do you know if anyone makes an air shock for the air stream ? One that can be inflated to compensate for weak axle tubes ?
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08-15-2011, 05:39 PM
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don.44
Do you know if anyone makes an air shock for the air stream ? One that can be inflated to compensate for weak axle tubes ?
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A device like that should "NEVER" be used on an Airstream.
First, you will break the shock studs.
Second, they won't fit.
Third, the trailer will no longer handle properly.
Shocks, air inflated or otherwise, can never replace the suspension of a torsion axle.
Andy
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08-15-2011, 05:52 PM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
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Baltimore
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so is the shock redundant? Dexter thinks so. Does Axis also?
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08-15-2011, 07:39 PM
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Rivet Master 

1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 62overlander
so is the shock redundant? Dexter thinks so. Does Axis also?
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I didn't ask Axis. When Luke and I got around to doing my Overlander, we didn't give Dexter enough time to weld on the unique shock mounts for Airstream, so I decided I didn't need them. The Overlander has been up to Seattle twice since then and once all the way around the West, and I can't tell any difference--I'm convinced they are redundant.
Roger
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08-16-2011, 12:24 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1983 31' Excella
2005 30' Classic
1993 33' Land Yacht
Wellfleet
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Trailer Heigth
Is there a trailer heigth measurement available to determine if the trailer torsion axles may be weak ? From the belt line to the ground ?
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08-16-2011, 07:08 AM
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don.44
Is there a trailer heigth measurement available to determine if the trailer torsion axles may be weak ? From the belt line to the ground ?
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Reading the following article, will better help you to check out the axles.
The Dura-Torque Axle
Andy
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01-01-2012, 08:53 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1976 31' Sovereign
2007 19' Bambi
Midland
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Not so sure the shocks are redundant. Couldn't figure out why our 2007 pulled so bad compared to our 1976. Interior rivets were shearing, we had to constantly tighten screws. Stuff rattled around more than we ever expected (opening doors became a game).
Then while replacing a tire I discovered that the RS shock was never installed. The mounting studs were immaculate. Got a shock ordered, got it on, and all the odd problems stopped immediately.
Well, except for traveling in Louisiana, but that's a whole different story.
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1976 Sovereign & 75th Anniv Bambi
TAC TX-3
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01-02-2012, 10:53 AM
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Rivet Master 

1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
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Palmer Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by racoco
Not so sure the shocks are redundant. ...
... I discovered that the RS shock was never installed. The mounting studs were immaculate. Got a shock ordered, got it on, and all the odd problems stopped immediately.
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Whoa, that's certainly something to think about.
Zep
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01-02-2012, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeppelinium
Whoa, that's certainly something to think about.
Zep
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Part of it may be there was one shock on one side only. I do believe they should be all or nothing, and the one shock may have made a non-issue into a real issue.
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01-02-2012, 11:16 AM
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Maniacal Engineer
1971 25' Tradewind
Lopez Island
, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeppelinium
Whoa, that's certainly something to think about.
Zep
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I wonder if shocks are more critical on single axle trailers? On a trailer with two axles, the spring rate on each axle is half that of a single axle unit... which would certainly make a difference. Keep in mind that leaf springs have a significant amount of self damping due to the leaves rubbing together.
- Bart
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01-02-2012, 04:29 PM
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Rivet Master 

1973 23' Safari
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barts
I wonder if shocks are more critical on single axle trailers? ...
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I think it's much more critical on a single axle. I finally decided on dual axles, only. Sold the Caravel. I hated the high spring rate when the single tire hit a pot hole.
Zep
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01-05-2012, 12:01 PM
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Moderator dude

1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
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Shocks are used to dampen or restrict axle or coach movement. Because of the design of the torsion axle with internal rubber rods there are situations where shocks don't have much function. All the dampening work is being done internally with the axle.
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01-31-2012, 12:44 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1965 24' Tradewind
Starkville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by racoco
Got a shock ordered, got it on, and all the odd problems stopped immediately.
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Where did you get your shock? I'm looking for shocks for my 1965 24' Tradewind - any good source for ordering them?
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01-31-2012, 12:55 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1976 31' Sovereign
2007 19' Bambi
Midland
, Texas
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I ordered the one I needed from Out-of-Doors Mart (outofdoors.com) in NC. They were very helpful and the box was here in three days. Install was even easier than they explained it to be. Good luck.
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1976 Sovereign & 75th Anniv Bambi
TAC TX-3
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01-31-2012, 02:15 PM
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Shocks
Parts stocking Airstream dealers, have the correct shocks.
Andy
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02-03-2012, 12:05 PM
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Moderator dude

1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
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Lucymcdog, Your '65 will have vertical shocks. NAPA would be a good source.
Later years have horizontal shocks and those are a dealer only shock.
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1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Still Streamless. But have brand X TT.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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02-25-2012, 05:29 AM
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Rivet Master 
1977 31' Sovereign
1985 25' Sovereign
South Central Rockies...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by racoco
Not so sure the shocks are redundant. Couldn't figure out why our 2007 pulled so bad compared to our 1976. Interior rivets were shearing, we had to constantly tighten screws. Stuff rattled around more than we ever expected (opening doors became a game).
Then while replacing a tire I discovered that the RS shock was never installed. The mounting studs were immaculate. Got a shock ordered, got it on, and all the odd problems stopped immediately.
Well, except for traveling in Louisiana, but that's a whole different story.
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Did you use an AS "horizontal" type shock?
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High Desert Country of the Rockies
'85 Sovereign 25'er
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02-25-2012, 06:35 AM
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Moderator dude

1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
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All units built after 1966 are designed for a horizontal shock.
>>>>>>Action
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1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Still Streamless. But have brand X TT.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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