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01-11-2005, 08:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
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Generator Question
I'm looking at the Honda 2000i, and we have a 1968 Overlander.
Help....I'm not exactly clear on how a generator will work. Do you plug the trailer cord directly into the generator, and run it a few hours to charge the battery? Do the outlets work, while it it running?
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1989 345 Motorhome
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01-11-2005, 08:39 PM
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Just a member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Lutz
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Yes and yes
The outlets on the genset are live while it is running. Once you plug the trailer into it the outlets in the trailer will be live as well. The main issue is to not overload the genset buy creating too much of a draw. You will not be able to run the roof AC on a single 2000 series Honda genset.
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01-11-2005, 08:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Sunnyvale
, California
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,894
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Yup..
Brett is correct, though a few more details might help...
1. You will need adapter to plug round 30 Amp plug into standard outlets on side of generator. Side of generator is equivalent to home wall outlet for 110V power, with similar 20 Amp rating, more or less...
2. Depending on trailer, power supply/Univolt will recharge battery(s) while plugged in and generator running, though Honda also makes special cable with plug on generator that delivers 12V charging current directly to battery terminals. It's not included with standard generator, but can be used to speed battery charging.
3. Depending on fridge, many Dometic "smart" refigerators will also flip from propane to electric operation while generator running, and flip back when generator stops..
4. Other 110V appliances like coffee maker, hair dryer, TV, toaster and microwave will also work well with Honda eu2000 running, not so well with smaller eu1000 model (at least not all at once.. )...
5. If you need Air Conditioning away from big outlets, Honda and others sell "kit" to run 2 eu2000's together, and provide enough power for A/C.. Airstream and Coleman make clear that running A/C on inadequate power may appear to work, but startup electrical loads can do permanent harm to compressor motor and circuits in A/C, and be very costly...
John McG
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01-11-2005, 08:59 PM
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Rivet Master
1959 26' Overlander
Putnam
, Connecticut
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Got the wife one for Christmas She'll really like it when we don't have AC to hookup. I considered a 3000 but they are far too heavy. I'll get another 2000 if I really need air. Mine started up right away and it really it quiet. Putting the oil in is a little tricky and a funnel with a small but long spout is very helpful. They are really make nice.
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01-11-2005, 09:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
, Colorado
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Thanks! It sounds like we'll need the "parallel" for AC weather (it's hard to think AC with all this snow), but one should be fine for lights, radio, and coffeemaker.
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Michael & Tracy
1989 345 Motorhome
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01-12-2005, 09:36 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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Tracy
Speaking of snow - heard you guys got 101 inches of snow in the last 11 days! Thats a lot of shoveling - anyway hope all is well.
Ken
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01-12-2005, 10:17 AM
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Rivet Master
1975 29' Ambassador
Reno
, Nevada
Join Date: May 2003
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Depending upon your AC and your ability to turn off everything else, you might be able to run it with a Honda 2000si - some folks have but it depends on altitude, AC compressor startup needs, and other things. So , for AC runs a parallel pair is better. Even a 3000si can have trouble starting an AC (personal experience) depending upon hookup and other factors.
As far as charging, you should avoid using either the converter or the 12v output on the genset if you want fast charging. These are constant voltage current limited chargers. A good three stage charger (such as the Intellepower with Charge Wizard or the better inverter based chargers or a dedicated smart charger) will bring the battery up much much faster.
Also keep in mind that a genset (generator and motor) needs regular exercise for good health. Sitting for months on end can make for difficult starting or gummed up fuel system. The manual usually has recommendations.
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01-12-2005, 07:28 PM
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1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs
, Florida
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Snow? Not here. Dagbabit, since it started to warm up the grass is greening back up. May have to mow the lawn again.
That EU2000i is a fantastic generator, ours really paid for itself during the hurricanes, keeping the fridge, lights, tv and sat dish going. I am going to convert mine to propane. It is a real pain having to refuel every 8-9 hours.
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2003 GMC 2500HD 4X4 D/A Ext. Cab
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01-12-2005, 08:49 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
, Colorado
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Pick & Ken,
I'm longing for a little green. We're heading to Quartsite next week, so I should get some. Thank goodness we stored our trailer out near Bayfield. We'd never get it out! Michael was several hours just digging out the truck!
I've never known Hwy 550 to be closed more than a few hours, but we're on the third day.
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Michael & Tracy
1989 345 Motorhome
CHARTER MEMBERS: FOUR CORNERS UNIT, AND PROUD OF IT!!!
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01-12-2005, 09:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Honda Generators
Don't forget to look on e-bay for these generators. I've spotted many while looking for a BIG one for our answering service. We ended up buying locally retail (boo-hoo), but we got a UPS battery backup unit that normally sells for $8000 for a mere $1000 - still in the factory shrinkwrap. (cha-ching)
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01-12-2005, 09:49 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
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Tracy
May have to delay your trip a bit - all roads getting out of Silverton are closed - I would love to see some green grass.
Ken
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01-12-2005, 10:57 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Western
, Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Over59
Got the wife one for Christmas I considered a 3000 but they are far too heavy. Putting the oil in is a little tricky and a funnel with a small but long spout is very helpful. They are really made nice.
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I have a Honda 3000 and consider it just right....my wife and I can load it into the back of our Chevy Avalanche together with ease. It has rollers, so all you need to do is roll it to the back of the Avalanche, hoist it up into the pickup and secure it to the side panel for travel. It stays in position during operation in the back of the truck and exhaust fumes exit out the top after one panel is removed. It has provided AC power for AS Rally in Sisters, OR and has been handy boondocking in NF & BLM campsites. Only one generator to maintain. Agree with filling the oil.....a bit unhandy even with the 3000.
Jim
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01-13-2005, 03:55 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 22' International CCD
Spotsylvania
, Virginia
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I also have a Honda EU-3000is with a wheel kit, just like Jim's. I load it into my pickup truck with an aluminum ATV/motorcycle ramp. I have a truck cap to protect it from weather and for security. I also use a Kryptonite cable lock for added protection.
It is quiet while it charges my battery. I have also used it to start and run my 13.5K BTU air conditioner on my 22' CCD. No problems! I'm not sure it will work on a larger unit though.
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