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01-05-2014, 02:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Induction Cooktop
In my never ending quest for making SilverLeaf cutting edge, I have bought a portable induction cooktop. Upside is it is extremely fast and generates zero heat. The heat comes from the pan and what you are cooking. Downside is it'll pull 1800 Watts, so when I use it this'll max out my already puny (IMHO) electrical system. Oh, I had to buy new cookware. If a magnet won't stick to the bottom of your pot, induction won't work. I was so impressed with the performance of this little panel (looks like a square hot plate, and cost under $150), that I just replaced my home cooktop with a new JennAir induction unit. Pricey, more than $2,000, plus new cookware. Costco has a great set of stainless steel with iron cores. I love induction....incredibly fast, and absolutely precise temperature. When you change cooking temp it happens INSTANTLY. No carryover heat like gas or radiant. Stay tuned for updates!
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01-05-2014, 02:43 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1993 34' Excella
York
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Barry, you and Silverleaf could be a 1 man seminar at Alumalina this March. About all you are missing is one of those self parking devices like some of the new cars have. Just pull up beside the campsite, hit a button, bam, it backs in for you.
Hmmm......, are you already secretly working on one??
John
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01-05-2014, 02:48 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 34' Classic S/O
Brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
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I've had one in my Airstream for 7 years now! best thing....it does not heat up the trailer. was dry camping once and had to use the gas, felt like a bonfire!, there is a two burner available from Berhoff, but they both share the 1800 watts...but just having one burner, with the convection microwave seems to take care of 90% of cooking needs.....
oh, and I got a Kenmore Elite 30in Induction cooktop for the house at Sears outlet for 700!!
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01-05-2014, 03:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Great to hear that someone else is thinking along the same lines for efficiency and heat reduction. The home unit has a setting for "melting" ... and using it was the first time I have ever melted two squares of unsweetened chocolate perfectly! Will do a tour at Alumalina in March, John!
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01-05-2014, 03:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Looks like a nifty new toy, Barry.
We bought a new cooktop, too......a butane burner for cooking outside.
See you in March.
maggie
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01-05-2014, 03:25 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 30' Classic
On the road since 2000
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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16 Amp stove on 14 GA wire...
Quote:
Originally Posted by BAB
In my never ending quest for making SilverLeaf cutting edge, I have bought a portable induction cooktop. Upside is it is extremely fast and generates zero heat. The heat comes from the pan and what you are cooking. Downside is it'll pull 1800 Watts, so when I use it this'll max out my already puny (IMHO) electrical system. Oh, I had to buy new cookware. If a magnet won't stick to the bottom of your pot, induction won't work. I was so impressed with the performance of this little panel (looks like a square hot plate, and cost under $150), that I just replaced my home cooktop with a new JennAir induction unit. Pricey, more than $2,000, plus new cookware. Costco has a great set of stainless steel with iron cores. I love induction....incredibly fast, and absolutely precise temperature. When you change cooking temp it happens INSTANTLY. No carryover heat like gas or radiant. Stay tuned for updates!
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1800 watss @ 110V AC = 16+ amps
I have never see anything more than 14/3 wiring in an Airstream which is not capable of handling a 16 amp load safely.
So, you have rewired your trailer with 12/3 wire to support the added load that this unit will put on the electrical wire. That's good because if you have not, you will be melting wires when you have the stove operating at full capacity and that will, in all probability, result in a very nice fire.
IF on the other hand, you have not rewired the trailer to accommodate the load that this cook top will put on the electrical wiring you will always be in the trailer so that you can ensure that no one will make the mistake of operating the stove at its full capability so that they will not inadvertently put themselves and anyone in the immediate vicinity of your unit in what could well be a situation that results in someone being very badly injured, or worse, death.
Jim, who wonders why you would not mention an upgrade to your electrical system if you are aware of this....
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01-05-2014, 03:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
Central
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Gosh, I've seen multiple RVers mention using portable induction cooktops. Seems to be a lack of totally catastrophic fires that wipe out everyone in the trailer and the adjacent cute duck sanctuary/houseful of nuns.
I'm also a fan of induction, having had it at home for six years now. I don't use one in the trailer because we only have electric 1 out of 10 times we camp.
Tom
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01-05-2014, 04:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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We use ours on the outside outlet. No problem yet. Should I be concerned about the trailer wiring?
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01-05-2014, 04:53 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 25' International CCD
Lilburn
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 286
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My breakers are 20 amp and at least some (if not all) of the outlets are wired with 12 gauge wire. So my guess is a newer trailer is ok.
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01-05-2014, 05:33 PM
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,536
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I'd point out that it's rare to see voltage as low as 110v in the US. I hear that it happens at some campgrounds especially in the summer when everyone is running their AC, and I guess it could also be a problem in winter when everyone it running their heat pumps on "free" electricity to save propane. If memory serves, the lowest voltage I've seen, measured at the outlet in the galley with a Fluke, is about 116v with the AC running, which would represent about 15.5 amps draw for the induction cooktop running full tilt. Of course, that voltage was higher before I turned my AC on, and I couldn't run both on my 30A service (or at least I wouldn't try...)
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01-05-2014, 07:36 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2000 28' Excella
1994 31' Legacy 30
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 84
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Induction hobs
I have been using a Berghoff induction hob in my trailer for about 7 years and I have never seen it draw more than 10 amps (1600 watt rating on the label). I suspect that the makers label for the absolute worst case including manufacturing tolerance. At any rate the circuit barker should trip long before and wires get hot enough to start a fire. If you are worried about it get a KIll-o-watt meter (Camping World sells them) and check what your actual power usage is. Induction is the most energy efficient way to cook in most cases. And so it is very popular in countries where energy is expensive.
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2000 28' Classic TT
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01-05-2014, 09:36 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 30' Classic
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 285
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We have a Nu-Wave Induction cooktop and love it! I usually use it outside plugged into an extension cord that is directly plugged into the electric post at the campground. I have used it inside too without problem, but no other electric items in use at the same time. I bought a set of stackable cook pans that have removable handles which can double as storage containers in the fridge. I also use my cast iron skillet on it and place a paper towel under the pan to prevent the iron skillet from marring the cooktop. It is my favorite kitchen tool!
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01-05-2014, 09:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1997 30' Excella
1961 26' Overlander
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1981 28' Airstream 280
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2009
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We are working on 1961 Overlander that will the electrical upgrade to 50amp amd 12/2 w/grnd wiring. Why? Because my wife wants the in duction cooktop AND air conditioning. Can you believe it? The nerve of that woman.
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01-05-2014, 11:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kswelsh
We have a Nu-Wave Induction cooktop and love it! I usually use it outside plugged into an extension cord that is directly plugged into the electric post at the campground. I have used it inside too without problem, but no other electric items in use at the same time. I bought a set of stackable cook pans that have removable handles which can double as storage containers in the fridge. I also use my cast iron skillet on it and place a paper towel under the pan to prevent the iron skillet from marring the cooktop. It is my favorite kitchen tool!
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I also have the Nu-Wave(s) and they are tougher than I realized. I got the first two in February - gave one away, and the second one went through my wreck this summer. It made funny noises after the wreck, so I ordered another set. After they came in, I took the back off of the first one and found a loose piece of plastic that had gotten into the fan somehow. I removed the jammed piece and now the original works fine again. So I have spares. If I'm ever at a pot luck using one or more of these, I'll make sure to use a very heavy duty extension cord directly from the pole though I've had no problems using mine indoors. I can't believe these draw 1800 amps if they're not going full blast. These are brilliant for keeping fondue, chocolate, or queso just warm.
I did pop a breaker when I had the heat pump and the induction burner working, then without thinking tried to use the microwave. It popped on the inside... and happened within a second or two of starting the microwave. The NuWave wire wasn't warm, nor was the outlet.
I'll be watching this thread though. I surely don't want to burn up the new rig.
Paula
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01-06-2014, 06:51 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 34' Classic S/O
Brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 195
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Speaking of cooking, I was thinking of getting a halftime 4x convection microwave, 15 A, being 15 A apparently it uses convection and microwave at the same time unlike normal convection ovens. Therefore it's much faster Strangely they're only available at Walmart.com and smart home.com
Has anyone had experience with this oven??
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01-06-2014, 11:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Olympia
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DFDureiko
Speaking of cooking, I was thinking of getting a halftime 4x convection microwave, 15 A, being 15 A apparently it uses convection and microwave at the same time unlike normal convection ovens. Therefore it's much faster Strangely they're only available at Walmart.com and smart home.com
Has anyone had experience with this oven??
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I have the (much maligned) Sharp Convection Microwave. It combines the convection roasting with microwave, and also has broiler elements so it does a good job of broiling. The controls are not very intuitive, so I refer to the manual often. But it works very well, if you follow the instructions.
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01-06-2014, 02:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
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I sold the Sharp/Convection last summer that I'd ordered as an "option" when I ordered my trailer. You can find this tale of woe elsewhere. I found that unit extremely user unfriendly. Ended up buying a "scratch and dent" Amana oven at the Airstream garage sale at Alumapalooza, and lo and behold, I had enough room UNDER the oven for a Cuisinart convection/microwave (see photo). Not the best placement...but I have a propane stovetop, gas oven, convection/microwave AND the new induction. I think all the bases are covered.
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01-06-2014, 03:05 PM
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StreamNmemees
1970 27' Overlander
1961 24' Tradewind
Lumberton
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2013
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I have 3 of the induction cook
tops. Got them for the camper and have been using them since we started camping. I moved one into the house because I love cooking on them. I even use my cast iron skillet on it.
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01-08-2014, 07:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
Central
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BAB
Not the best placement...but I have a propane stovetop, gas oven, convection/microwave AND the new induction. I think all the bases are covered.
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Gosh! Wondering how many outdoor grills you have too!
Tom
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01-08-2014, 08:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
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Wel-l-l-l I have two. After I ordered my trailer I bought this gorgeous Holland stainless steel grill, Tom. Operates using one of the propane gas cylinders. Problem: it is VERY HEAVY and takes up a lot of space. Then I bought one of these (almost) miniature Coleman jobs -- at CW …. it had a few chips off the porcelain cover, and I paid around $30 for it. You can buy different grills for it, including a griddle. So, this thing easily slides in the A/S trunk and I can wash the drip pan and grill in my lobster sink. So, guess what. The cheapie does a terrific steak, cleans in a snap and is large enough to cook for two. The Holland is at home and I use it if I don't feel like firing up the big one. It all works. I confess that I saw this SOB 5th wheel job where this big panel opens (outside), and the guy has a complete KITCHEN (with sink)….oh, and he was watching a football game as well. Talk about overkill!
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