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05-12-2011, 01:31 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1986 29' Sovereign
Chanhassen
, Minnesota
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 84
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Shine vs. Aluminum skin type
Airstream says that the 1960's thru 1971 used 2024-T3 AL clad. I heard this was the best for a good shine. Questions 1) Does it stand up better as well = time between polishing? 2) Airstream lists 1972 - 1976 with 6061-T6 then in 1977 to Alcoa 3004. Is there a noticeable difference here as well? 3) In 1983 they went to 3003, then in 86 to 3005. Are any of these later changes much different?
Scott
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05-12-2011, 08:43 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 31' Sovereign
2000 33' Land Yacht
Ball Ground
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 311
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Great question
Thanks for bringing this up. I am polishing a 1976 and have got a fair shine but nothing compared to one I saw at a recent gathering that was in the later 60's. I tried as the owner told me but still not completely satisfied I have used six different types of polish and much labor with OK results. The only thing I can figure is the type aluminum . The sides are better then end caps?
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05-12-2011, 10:25 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 31' Excella
Fresno
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 307
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From what I have read the cyclo buffer is a important final step but I am concentrating on floor repair before polishing.
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05-13-2011, 12:52 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1962 19' Globetrotter
1963 19' Globetrotter
1961 19' Globetrotter
Wheat Ridge
, Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2007
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The end caps on 58-63 are not 2024-T3... Not sure what they are in latter models...
The alclad in-beaded coating (simple way of putting it) is what make the polishing look way more shinny then just plain aluminum. Alclad aluminum shins up way nicer then none alclad aluminum!!! In some cases I have seen alclad over polished, what has happen is the Alclad layer is simply polished away!
Simply put alclad is a thin dusting of aluminum dust and other alloys that are cold rolled into the product. The theory is that the this thin coating is what oxidizes thus protecting the inner layers of aluminum from oxidizing. This thin layer is like sandpaper. When you polish you knock down the high layers and fill in the lower layers thus making the aluminum shin! The other alloys shin up better than aluminum by it self... That is only part of the story but a basic way to explain it!
Hope that info helps... Todd
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05-13-2011, 06:29 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1986 29' Sovereign
Chanhassen
, Minnesota
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 84
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Differences between other years?
Thanks,
The attached link from the AS website describes the material differences.
http://service.airstream.com/files/l...92c0a731f5.pdf
What I was most unclear of was if there was a big shine difference between the other skin material changes. Specifically upon the change to Alcoa 3004, 3003, 3005.
I also noticed that many end caps have a different sheen to them. I assume they are made from aluminum which is easier to form into a curve.
Scott
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05-13-2011, 07:46 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1981 22' Excella II
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Colbert
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: 1948 22' Liner
Posts: 201
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Polishing Technique
Greetings Scott,
As I understand it, there is more pure Alum. in the earlier trailers (40's, 50's, and 60's).....the later trailers will polish....even the new ones...but there is a deeper, richer shine to the early ones...
I posted a video about a month ago on how I polish...it's not the only way, but it is how I approach it and I have polished 13....both the older ones and newer.
It is located here on my website:
Polishing Instructions - Southern Antique
I hope this is helps.
Best regards,
Levon
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07-01-2011, 07:28 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1986 31' Sovereign
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 150
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Levon,
Great video! Thanks. It may be a long time till I get to that stage but I have a little more confidence to approach the job now!
Matt
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07-02-2011, 07:04 AM
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Silver Mist
Currently Looking...
Riverhead
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,011
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++1, Levon is the man.
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Bob
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03-10-2013, 07:34 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1972 25' Tradewind
Chattanooga
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 165
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what is the skin thickness for a 1972 tradewind 25'?
Thanks
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03-11-2013, 07:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 21' Globetrotter
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,322
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Should be .032".
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03-20-2013, 09:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 25' Tradewind
Beautiful
, Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 553
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Something I have never known, was the super high shine the way the trailers came from the factory?
Tony
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03-21-2013, 06:02 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1986 31' Sovereign
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 150
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I don't think so. Most B&W pics I've seen look like a brushed finish. Polished is impressive but it will not fix the leaking holding tank...
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03-21-2013, 06:28 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1981 22' Excella II
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Colbert
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: 1948 22' Liner
Posts: 201
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Factory Shine
Greetings,
Years ago, I owned a one owner 64 Safari that I had planned to strip the clear coat because of some peeling at the top and polish to a mirror finish.....BUT decided to leave the original shine instead....it was not the highly mirrored shine we put on them today (I think that started about 15 years ago), nor was it the brushed look, but it did have a very nice original finish as you can see from the photo.
More photos of this trailer can be seen here:
1964 Safari 22' - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Southern Antique
Best Regards,
Levon
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