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TerraYacht · 10-16-2013, 05:30 PM

Thanks for all this information! shortly after I got my moho used, the grey tank readings went off: the empty tank read about half full. The output tank sensors are very accessible on the Class A, and when I pulled the sensor to swap it, it was filled with crud. I think the PO was water-frugal and the grey tank solids just built up. Now the water tank reading is screwing up, but I don't know (yet) where that sensor is. Maybe install a SeeLevel and do the fresh water tank first, then the others as they die...

overlander63 · 10-16-2013, 06:13 PM

In the FWIW department, Airstream has switched tank monitoring systems. If one ever breaks, I'll see if I can snap a couple of photos of the part that goes in the tanks. I hope it is a very, very long time before I can provide said photos.

Bruce B · 10-16-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by overlander63

In the FWIW department, Airstream has switched tank monitoring systems. If one ever breaks, I'll see if I can snap a couple of photos of the part that goes in the tanks. I hope it is a very, very long time before I can provide said photos.

I believe they are using the SeeLevel system I installed. The best part is that the monitor uses sensors that actually stick to the outside of the tank. "No muss no fuss"..... I still hope you have no need to replace one for a long time!
Bruce

overlander63 · 10-16-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce B

I believe they are using the SeeLevel system I installed. The best part is that the monitor uses sensors that actually stick to the outside of the tank. "No muss no fuss"..... I still hope you have no need to replace one for a long time!
Bruce

That is the brand name.

Bruce B · 10-16-2013, 07:03 PM

For once in my life I am a trend setter!
Bruce

Debnw · 10-18-2013, 01:13 PM

Bruce, I'm renovating our 72Safari and have purchased the same unit. I see that both the pump and heater are powered thru the see level monitor... Do you think the wires are a little undersized?

Bruce B · 10-21-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Debnw

Bruce, I'm renovating our 72Safari and have purchased the same unit. I see that both the pump and heater are powered thru the see level monitor... Do you think the wires are a little undersized?

The manual is very specific about this. You must relay the heater and the pump!!!
You will damage the unit if you try to run current from either device directly through the monitor.
Bruce

Bruce B · 02-19-2014, 11:46 AM

As I have has a few questions about my instalation, I thought I would take this moment to announce that the SeeLevel system I installed just shy of 11 months ago has worked to perfection thus far. No recalibrating, no looking down the toilet, no running out of watet just a nice simple gage panel/system that works. So far that is about 11 times as long as the best run I had with the one installed by Airstream.
Bruce

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Mixter · 02-19-2014, 11:57 AM

Nice... think Im going same route

Zymurbrian · 05-31-2014, 11:19 PM

Well, I have great news! After a significant amount of argument and complaint, I have become the first factory authorized, warranty conversion for our trailer from the MicroPulse to the See Level system. And the results-----the See Level system works perfectly!

Yes, the sensors aren't quite the right length for the tanks in our 25FB. The
current sensor strips are too short. That means that you end up with approximately 1/8 tank reserve both below and above the measured readings. For example, when the fresh water tank is filled, you can run a few gallons with the sensor still showing 100%. The sensors will accurately show the water level down to 0 at which you still have about 5 gallons in reserve. Over all, not a bad setup.

Installation, however, was not easy. The service techs had to cut holes in the belly pans to get access to the tanks. Apparently the factory never foresaw the need to change tanks-ever.

jmcarter · 06-01-2014, 04:24 AM

Any idea how many hours the JC techs took? Might have to swing through there and let them convert my 2010 International 28. I'm timid about drilling holes in the pan and not knowing what I might accidentally hit.

Zymurbrian · 06-01-2014, 09:59 PM

It was actually done at Bay Area Airstream in Fairfield, CA. I know it took a few complete days but much of that was because I was the first one. My guess is that JC should be able to do it in 1 1/2 - 2 days.

SteveSueMac · 06-02-2014, 04:36 AM

When I was checking on this on my recent trip to JC, I was quoted $2500 (not a free warranty repair/upgrade) and probably 3 days. Didn't seem worth it to me. I'm pretty familiar with the levels at this point. They did recalibrate the sensors and they've been spot on since then. Don't know if that will last long but it's not as important to me as it was last year when they were a mess and I was just learning.

Apparently the seelevel is very good - enjoy!!

PhiDor · 06-04-2014, 06:49 PM

Does anyone know where true sensors are located on a 2006 34' classic? If I knew where they are located, I might try to do some replacing. I'm not about to pay $2500.00 or even close to that.

And if you know where they are, how do you get at them? Take off the big pan under the trailer?

crispyboy · 06-05-2014, 10:58 AM

I retrofitted our second trailer (1989 29' Excella) with the See Level system. With a little thought it was not a bad project. A couple of hours of your time is all it should take.
I was able to use all the existing wiring so it was really a matter of having access to the tank, crimping the connectors and making a place to put the control board.
The system worked great!
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f444...led-78854.html

ghaynes755 · 06-05-2014, 11:06 AM

So I notice in some of the photos of the new 2015's that the tank indicator appears to be different. Anyone know if they have finally changed from the MicroPulse and if so to what brand? Looks like a See Level but not sure.

crispyboy · 06-05-2014, 11:43 AM

I believe it is the See Level system. A good move by Airstream Inc.

PhiDor · 06-05-2014, 02:56 PM

I sent Airstream a message last night asking for a Service Bulletin on how to change the sensors on a Micro Pulse on my 34' Classic. No answer yet, but I will share whatever comes along. Is this in the same category as a GM ignition switch? It could be a health hazard.

SafariSS · 06-05-2014, 03:06 PM

So in looking at Krispys post, do the sensors go on the outside of the plastic tank or do you drill into the tank side itself?

I have no idea what the current MicroPulse sensor looks like but mine worked about a year from new and then just all register empty aside from the freshwater tank which goes from full to empty when you extract one gallon from it!

Cool setup, challenging install and I guess it will be quite a bit different from model to model.

crispyboy · 06-05-2014, 03:16 PM

The sensors are cut to size with a scissors and attached with a very strong adhesive on the exterior of the tank. The sensors will not be the perfect size for the tank but will get you close enough for what you need to know. I skewed the fresh water sensor towards the bottom so I knew just how much water there was left and the grey and black towards the top so I knew how much capacity was left in the tank.
My trailer already had inspection plates on the bottom of the tank pans where the old sensors were located.