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03-03-2010, 07:56 PM
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#301
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Rivet Master
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Florissant
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Originally Posted by goransons
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Scott,
These are actually larger than the Yankee lenses I am looking for. Did you see his buy it now price? Yikes.
Steve
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03-03-2010, 08:29 PM
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#302
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,512
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too rich for my blood, but sometimes if its the right part it ends up being the right price.
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VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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03-04-2010, 03:31 PM
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#303
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Rivet Master
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Florissant
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Found one...WAHOOO!
I was doing some views on Ebay today, and happened across one of the Yankee 70 fixtures with lens. Buy it now for $1.25 and $5.99 shipping. Less than $8.00 for the complete lens and fixture is amazing. Now I have an additional fixture incase VTS wants to have them made.
WAHOO!!!!
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03-04-2010, 05:19 PM
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#304
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Addicted to Aluminum
1959 18' "Footer"
1964 24' Tradewind
1954 29' Liner
Woodstock
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2005
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good score! I didn't see that one (and I've been keeping an eye out for ya!) My Liner has plastic lenses that look a little different. I don't think any 2 were alike.
JP
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03-04-2010, 06:36 PM
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#305
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Congratulations!!!
I thought you would be looking for a long time.
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03-04-2010, 06:49 PM
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Rivet Master
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Florissant
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I was planning to replace the entire rear panel on the trailer this weekend, but both of my helpers fell through. I will drill out some rivets, but leave the sheet up with a few clecos until I can get a bucking assistant. Too bad as the weather looks to be pretty good for the next three days which I am off.
Steve
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03-05-2010, 07:29 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
1972 23' Safari
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,356
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You must be living right to find that lens and fixture
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03-05-2010, 07:35 AM
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#308
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Rivet Master
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Florissant
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It's all luck Rich....luck indeed!
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03-29-2010, 06:13 PM
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Rivet Master
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Florissant
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Restoration Days
On Saturday I got a call from the guy I had sold my 63 Tradewind to. He was telling me that his 12v power had gone out abruptly. As I sat on the phone going back and forth, I decided it was best to just drive down and help him out. His wife watched Collin while we spent the next seven hours working.
With a few calls to Melody Ranch from AIRforums, we finally figured out the issue. The old wiring had cracked sleeves, and was shorting itself to the frame. We started in on figuring out his umbilical wiring issue, but day rapidly turned to night.
The next day, Brian came out to assist me on my trailer. Brian is a contractor, and is much better at alot of things when it comes to his approach on Airstreams. We decided to buck rivet both sides down, and attach the trailer to the wheel wells. The previous owner had placed large wheel well flares over the side skin due to a blow out. I like the look of the flares, so I kept them. We applied a liberal amount of sealant between the wheel well and the exterior skin as well, to ensure we didn't get water penetration.
Curbside Riveted
Street side Riveted
It wasn't all rosy. We had to remove the rear corner belly skins that were hastily installed. The relief cuts were far too long, and were showing under the shell. This is a huge problem on the front of the trailer as well, but with everything riveted together up front, I am reluctant to remove everything to redo it. We will also have to cut a large portion of the front belly pan out that is buckling due to improper installation. When this was installed last fall, I was complacent, and in a hurry. That will end up costing me on overall quality of a job, and I am sorry about it.
To end on a positive, I found not one, but two of the Yankee 70 glass lenses that I had broken. One of them even came with the fixture and bezel (Impossible to find). I got both of them for less than $20. Kings to me!
Steve
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03-29-2010, 06:52 PM
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#310
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1950 Flying Cloud 7039
1950 21' Flying Cloud
Allen
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 611
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Quote:
Originally Posted by soldiermedic
It wasn't all rosy. We had to remove the rear corner belly skins that were hastily installed. The relief cuts were far too long, and were showing under the shell. This is a huge problem on the front of the trailer as well, but with everything riveted together up front, I am reluctant to remove everything to redo it. We will also have to cut a large portion of the front belly pan out that is buckling due to improper installation. When this was installed last fall, I was complacent, and in a hurry. That will end up costing me on overall quality of a job, and I am sorry about it.
Steve
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Do not be so hard on yourself. This is part of the experience. You will not hit a home run every pitch. Not even close. You are not the Albert Pujols of Airstream restoration. (go Cards)
What you describe I have experienced as well. If all told the truth you will find many more with similar stories.
In no way does it distract from your efforts and your satisfactions.
Of course I say most of this to make my self feel better about the same things you lament about.
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03-29-2010, 07:05 PM
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#311
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Rivet Master
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Florissant
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As I said, I was in a hurry, and I let it go as it was. As I was outside the other day, I have decided to redo it. Many people run into the same issues due to inexperience, and the same result is the same.
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03-29-2010, 07:12 PM
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#312
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1950 Flying Cloud 7039
1950 21' Flying Cloud
Allen
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 611
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Its a delima. Should I redo this? I can make that better. It is time, material and money.
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03-30-2010, 07:43 AM
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Addicted to Aluminum
1959 18' "Footer"
1964 24' Tradewind
1954 29' Liner
Woodstock
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,015
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Do it right on the 3rd one... that's what I say. :-D
The wheel flares look great! Are you going to add some "J Molding" to the edge? It really cleans up the look, I think. I did that on mine.
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04-03-2010, 07:40 PM
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Rivet Master
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Florissant
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Off with the door, paint on the floor
Today was an absolute beauty of a day. Originally I had not planned on working this weekend. Amy has been in Washington State at Fort Lewis the past 16 days. We spoke maybe 30-45 seconds every other day, and she was scheduled to be home at 0930 after 10 hours of flights overnight. She was able to get an earlier flight, and it have us more time to take care of things.
When I first picked up my flying cloud, I noticed that like many Airstreams, the door had flown open while traveling down the road. This put large dents in the door within a door, the main door, and cracked on of the jambs on the main door.
Both main and inner door dented.
In order to rebuild the door correctly, I need a large break to make a new main jamb. Since I don't have a brake, I enlisted the help of forums member oh2becarefree. They have a 48 Curtis Wright trailers. Mike is a contractor and former metal worker. Most importantly, he has a large metal brake.
While the door is being rebuilt, I have a few new additions. I ordered new stainless steel hinges from Vintage Trailer Supply several months back to replace the rusty steel ones currently on the trailer. I have also decided to completely change the door latch. You can see in the picture above that the door had a simple round knob, and a Yale deadbolt that never worked or had keys. I wanted a latch that was low profile, included a deadbolt, and was chrome. I found a FASTEC latch on ebay that fit everything I was looking for. I now just needed to ensure it would work.
After viewing hundreds of vintage trailer pictures, I came across a 58 flying cloud with the latch I had been looking for. Here are pics from the interior and exterior of the latch I chose on a door within a door.
Interior
Exterior
So back to what I was doing today. Since I need to take the door to Mike this week, I drilled out the rivets holding the hinges on. Once the lower hinge was drilled out, I used clecos to hold it in place while I drilled out the top hinge rivets. What I found under the top hinge was unsettling. With the difference of metals between the hinge and skin of the trailer, I had bad galvanizing corrosion. The corrosion was so bad, that the clecos wouldn't even hold the door hinge to the trailer. I had seen something similar to this on Bill Kerfoot's 54 Liner. I will likely use the same fix that Bill used, and rivet on a long piece of Alclad down the rear edge of the door.
Upper hinge area on skin (Bad)
Lower hinge area on skin (Good)
Door removed (Good)
The other item of business I had for the day was to get a coat of oil based paint on the floor. The flooring is already extremely moisture resistant (currently the lowest moisture absorption in the field for OSB and plywood), but I wanted to ensure that my floor will have more protection that it needs. The paint I used is oil based and made for house siding, decks, and patios. It is waterproof with a 15 year warranty. I brushed around the edges of the C channel, and then used a roller across the rest of the floor.
Before paint
After paint
Good day in all. I may throw another coat of the paint on tomorrow depending on my schedule.
Steve
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04-04-2010, 09:29 AM
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#315
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Rivet Master
1971 21' Globetrotter
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Arvada
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I used the same type latch on my GT to replace the KT latch I had. I bought it at a local camper dealer for 41 bucks, including some for the Governor.
Kip
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04-04-2010, 09:52 AM
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#316
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Rivet Master
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Florissant
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Kip,
Nice looking job. I bet sure that aluminum bar really makes the door rigid compared to what it was originally. Any special tricks or info I need to pass along before having Mike take the door?
Steve
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04-04-2010, 10:50 AM
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#317
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Rivet Master
1971 21' Globetrotter
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Arvada
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Just make sure that there is no droop in the door before you install the latch. There was not alot of extra room in the striker plate to adjust the door up and down, in my case as I used the stock AS striker.
Kip
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04-04-2010, 07:11 PM
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#318
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Rivet Master
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Florissant
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Just finished up with another coat of sealant on the floor, and boy it looks good. I noticed water the last time it rained under the fantastic fan, and this floor covering will help. This fan was installed last year, and has never been hooked up. With the floor still drying, I climbed up on top of the trailer to cover the fan with some plastic. There were no less than three cracks on the frame of the fan unit. The only thing that I can think would have caused this would be the screws may have been installed too tightly. I installed it with the foam gasket per the manufacturers instructions, and had my wife push up on the skin from inside the trailer as I installed the screws. I have heard of some people using olympic rivets on these fans instead of screws, but think that once my new fan arrives, i will install with screws, but not that tight.
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04-04-2010, 07:34 PM
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#319
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2 Rivet Member
1963 24' Tradewind
St Louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 28
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SWEET PROGRESS!!!!!!
Gotta ideer for those worn out holes of yours.....NO, the ones on the trailer......
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04-04-2010, 07:44 PM
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#320
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Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
Port Hadlock
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 864
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Steve, I think this was a Colin Hyde suggestion on the VAP on mounting the fantastic vents: use a large flat washer and pan head screws so that you don't tighten down hard into the screw holes in the plastic. Seems to have worked fine on mine and I used gray silicone instead of Vulkem without the supplied gasket. No leaks so far and lately we've been testing it every day.
Floor looks great.
cheers,
steve
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