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Old 07-07-2005, 10:14 PM   #1
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Our Double Door 30' 1954 Liner

Well, we are back, after fifteen days, twelve hours and 5,602 miles. We is myself, my wife, Beth, my number two daughter, Anne and her friend, Tricia. In six days we drove to Tampa, FL through El Paso, San Antonio, dinner at Riverwalk and a tour of the Alamo, Houston, baseball game, home team Astros won, lunch at Nicks in Eunice, LA, center of cajun culture and home of 101.1 FM KBON Louisiana Proud, stop at Avery Island and the Tabasco Plant, dinner at Emerils in New Orleans, begnets at Cafe DuMond, lunch at Lulu's (Jimmy Buffett's sister) at Homeport Marina in Gulf Shores, Al and then to Tampa and the 1954 Double Door 30' Liner. We spent two plus days replacing the axles and wiring the brakes, etc, visit with Jim Smith, the Silver Albatross, see the Devil Rays lose to the Marlins, and then left for the return trip. Seven days back, through Plains, GA, Vicksburg, MS, Dallas, return unused wheels and brakes and see the Rangers beat the Angels in eleven innings, Carlsbad Caverns, visit with Brad Norgaard in Phoenix and now home. Also met GunnyUSMC on the way to Shreveport, good luck to you in Texas and hope to see you again.

We took the 1977 Lincoln which performed flawlessly both ways. Will compute mileage both bobtail and towing, later and will share with anyone who is interested. A vintage tow vehicle will perform on a long trip if properly maintained, and the comfort greatly exceeds a pickup or Suburban or Excursion.

Now the fun begins, take stock of the trailer condition, develop a plan of attack and rehab the Liner to the glory it deserves.

Here are a few pictures after we arrived home. More to come as the rebuild progresses.

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Old 07-07-2005, 10:22 PM   #2
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That thing is COOL! Congrats! You can have his n hers entrances.... or maids quarters?
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:24 PM   #3
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I saw this double door beauty when Bill drove through Phoenix. We talked about it for an hour and a half in the late afternoon sun here in Phoenix. I, for one, will be watching your restoration progress and will be glad to see all of that pink go away.

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Old 07-07-2005, 10:30 PM   #4
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Actually we have a separate bedroom exit so that one of us can sneak out while the other is watching TV.

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That thing is COOL! Congrats! You can have his n hers entrances.... or maids quarters?
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:56 PM   #5
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I'll bet you can't wait to get rid of the pink too!

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...and will be glad to see all of that pink go away.

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Reminds me of the ol' Pepto Bismol commercial where they show the cartoon of inside your stomach ~

Serriously, looks like a fun project is in store...with all that room you have lots of options! I feel for you though when it comes time to polish ~

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Old 07-08-2005, 05:23 AM   #6
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you really didnt pack tooo much in your itinerary.....did you?
i wish i had some of your energy!
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Old 07-08-2005, 05:45 AM   #7
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Reminds me of the ol' Pepto Bismol commercial where they show the cartoon of inside your stomach ~
Totally, Shari! Deep announcer voice: The one that coats is the only one you need...
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Question Wow!

Bill,

That looks like a great project, nice pictures. I look forward to seeing your progress!

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That pink is same shade as my daughter's nursery! Only her's is tutone (A shade darker on the bottom) with a wall paper stripe about half way up the wall.

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Old 07-28-2005, 09:32 PM   #10
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Parts Needed

I have started the rehab of the Liner and currently have the need for two parts. Number one, two 25" H by 14" W Hehr windows that look like this:



I also need two rectangular tail lights that are 5 3/4" W by 3" H. According to the excellent article by Fred Coldwell in the 2003 Third Quarter Vintage Advantage these are Bargman No. 2 lights.

There are probably more items, but this is what I am looking for now.

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Bill,

You want a 60 year old window!!!!!!!!! Whew.

Well if it can be done this is the place to do it.

Inside out waited for about a year + to get a shelf for the refer and a termination cap for her sewage system through this forum. She has a 63 or 64 Trailer.

I would recommend putting this in the classified Forum under misc parts. If you have not done so already.

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Old 07-28-2005, 10:42 PM   #12
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Action,

Come on, it is only 51 years old. If you look at Bryan Burkhart's book on pages 130 and 131, he shows an identical double door Liner as a 1958 which makes it only a 47 year old window. I am sure that the window was used on more than one year. If you don't ask no one will tell you.

I will post in the classifieds.

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You want a 60 year old window!!!!!!!!! Whew.

Well if it can be done this is the place to do it.

Inside out waited for about a year + to get a shelf for the refer and a termination cap for her sewage system through this forum. She has a 63 or 64 Trailer.

I would recommend putting this in the classified Forum under misc parts. If you have not done so already.

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I'll bet your neighbors love you right now...
Are you planning to install holding tanks in you "new" coach, or go with what originally came on it (a straight pipe)?
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Bill, I have the original taillight mounts (the aluminum backing plate with the sockets) if that will help. I replaced them on my '53 FC because the lenses are glass, fade with time, and essentially can't be found. You're welcome to the mounts, though, if you need them! PM me if you want them.

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Sorry Bill,

I like to add, the subtracting gets me!!!!!!!

And finding a newer window would be the thing, or older one could show up too!


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That's just the gestation. Wait till the birth. Everyone OHHH and AHHHH's then.

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The Liner is at C&G in Bellflower now for the three holding tanks. I cannot find where a water tank would be as there was no fill hole in the front. Since we do not use full service campgrounds all the time, the straight pipe would not be environmental friendly. Also having the coupler changed to 2 5/16" and the tongue extended for the equalizer brackets. When it comes back I can start on modernizing the interior.

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I cannot find where a water tank would be as there was no fill hole in the front.
It could simply be that the trailer was never equipped with a fresh water tank?? Not all trailers were so equipped.

Or I have seen on some of the early 60's models that there is a small door with the water fill that also acts as a city water connection. If your trailer had a water tank it would have also had a Grover air over water pump to pressurize the system. Was there any sign of a pump?
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It could simply be that the trailer was never equipped with a fresh water tank?? Not all trailers were so equipped.

Or I have seen on some of the early 60's models that there is a small door with the water fill that also acts as a city water connection. If your trailer had a water tank it would have also had a Grover air over water pump to pressurize the system. Was there any sign of a pump?
Brett,

My thought exactly, I believe that it was a park model. The sewer goes straight down, not unusual I am told for a 1954. Having two doors, the bath is in the center. There is a city water connection just forward of the street wheel well which goes straight up to the kitchen sink. Many 110 outlets through out, with a 110 glass fuse box in front near an exterior hole.

Would the air pump have been manual, low voltage or 110? I have to remove the second layer of plywood which was screwed to the original floor to try and make more sense of the original floorplan and locating the origianal water heater.

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Our '55 has also 110V outlets all over, single outlets too, which is weird. Sure the fuse block is 110V and not 12V? Our 12V glass fuse block is up front, 110V glass fuse block at rear, both street side.
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I would think the air pump would have been 12V. Especially if there was (or is) other items that are 12V. However if it was a park model - I would think 12v was not used since it was hooked to 110 all of the time.

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