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Old 10-16-2018, 12:17 AM   #1
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Classic 33 on order

Just struck a deal to trade our 2017 27FB Tommy Bamama for a classic 33. Have some mixed feeling, since we have had very good luck with our TB with virtually no real issues. Taking on a new trailer we face unknown gremlins to deal with - but at least with a 3 year warranty we have ample time to deal with things. We can handle a lot of the “issues” but major stuff we will need the dealer or JC to handle.

We have been overall happy with the TB, but we’ve been about 1/2 timing for the past 16 months, which is a lot more time than we were planning when we bought the TB. It was meant as a weekend get away.

After spending a bunch of time we realized that the layout of the 33 was a much better setup for us and better to be able to work remotely from while on the road.

Thanks for all those who have contributed to this forum, i’ve learned a ton. Hopefully we can contribute some value back to you all.

One last thing. We ordered a Moca Wood , macadamia ultra leather, and the light sandlewood countertops. That’s dark wood, light seating, light counters.

If anyone has done this combo and has pics please PM them to me (or post them here)
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:26 PM   #2
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Trepine,
Have you received the 33 yet? We are looking to move up from Classic 30 to 33. Love to hear your experience and any issues?
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:55 PM   #3
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Me too! I'd love a new Classic. It is on my Christmas list. I get to see Santa Saturday at the mall.

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Old 12-06-2018, 07:28 AM   #4
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Should be here any day. Was suppose to begin production on December 2nd. Expecting delivery by the end of the year.

We debated quite a bit on the 30 vs 33 and queen vs twin.

Typical Mission and why trade now

We are not full timers, I’m 43 and Jackie is 34, and we both are working still. Originally when we bought the Tommy Bahama 27 we thought we would spend a few weekends a month in it.

But, we ended up spending around 90-100 days in it, for 1-2 weeks at a time. The bulk of our use is from March/April to Oct/Nov.

We were a torn trading up, since we loved the styling of the Tommy Bahama (more than the classic) but in the end the layout and features of the classic won us over.

The other factor for us was that our Tommy was still pretty new (2017) 2 years old, and the longer we waited the more our trailer would depreciate and the more expensive the classic would become. Meaning our out of pocket would keep growing to upgrade the longer we waited.

The dealer also gave us what I felt was a good deal. We bought it from the same dealer as our first trailer, and essentially they gave us back 100% of what we paid for the tommy in trade, then lopped $7000 off the msrp of the new classic.

We plan to keep this trailer for quite some time 10-15 years or longer, so factoring all of these things together we decided the time was right and the deal was right to do it now.

30 vs 33 Classic

At the end of the day we felt the 30 was too much like the 27FB tommy we were trading in as far as layout. With a 30 we got a couch and the moved the dinette. Otherwise the layout was nearly identical.

The 33 on the other had a door on the bedroom, which for us is important because sometimes one is sleeping while the other is up. The big TV screen with well placed couch to watch was also nice. The desk and chair with filer will really come in handy because we do a bit of work on the road.

Lastly the big bathroom separate from the living area really sealed the deal. Jackie likes to have a big mirror to get ready in the morning. In the Tommy she use to sit in the hallway with the bathroom door open so she could use the mirror. If I ever needed to go to the bedroom for any reason she would have to pick all her stuff up and get up so i could get through. With the 33 she has all the space and mirrors she could want to get ready, and I have unrestricted access to the rest of the coach.

Other small selling points. I’m 6’3 and the big shower is a bonus, although it’s not any taller, it’s much easier to move around in than the 30 without constantly bumping elbows on the wall.

Also the toilet height and clearance from the walls is better. The 30 has the same layout as the Tommy, and using the bathroom was always a bit of a challenge. I usually ended up opening the door to 90 degrees into the hall for space.

Having a macerator on the toilet is a plus and minus. The macerator should help keep the unpleasant summer sewage smell at bay. Downsides of course being that the macerator could break leaving us without a toilet on the road. And also it needs more water to flush so the black tank will need more frequent dumping.

Twin vs Queen Bedroom

We would have preferred a queen bed, and we loved the queen bedroom in the 27 FB layout. The reality however is that the 33 queen bedroom is simply not the same layout at the 27FB. It’s bedroom is much shorter in length.

When you go into the showroom, usually they have the bed sitting up. It gives the illusion that you have good clearance at the foot of the bed, about the same clearance as the 27FB. With the bed down it is another story. It is impossible walk past the foot of the bed on the left (tv in the way), and a serious struggle on the right, and we are tall but not large people.

This means you will be entering and exiting the bed by climbing over the bed and exiting off of the foot of the bed. Or raising the head every time you want to enter or exit.

So, we elected to go with the twin. We can both lay on one bed together when we want, but access to the bed is superb.

Added bonuses of the twin were two extra and accessible storage compartments outside and extra hanging storage at the foot of the beds.

Negatives of the 33

There were a few things that were downsides of the 33. Both the 30 and 33 have the same max weight rating, but the 33 empty weight is heavier so this means less added weight can be put in the trailer. It should still be plenty, but to 30 is clearly better.

Also, the tongue weight is much heavier on the 33. about 300 lb heavier as I recall. We pull with a propride hitch so we will have a very heavy hitch weight. We are pulling with a 2017 f250 platinum, so we are within the hitch rating. But the extra weight will be pushing us towards the GVWR. The nice bits of the upper trim package trucks are nice but chew up a very significant part of your GVWR.

P.S. I’ll post pictures when it comes since the light leather, light counters, dark cherry combination is unusual.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:05 AM   #5
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Should be here any day. Was suppose to begin production on December 2nd. Expecting delivery by the end of the year.

We debated quite a bit on the 30 vs 33 and queen vs twin.
I really appreciate the detailed outline of your thoughts and approach. Looking forward to seeing photos and hearing more as you settle into your new rig!
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:15 PM   #6
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Excellent comparison of the 33 to the 30 Classics. Thanks for the write up. I hope your new Classic arrives shortly. Be prepared to chase some bugs out of it at first. Some folks spend a night in the dealer's lot just testing all the systems and developing a punch list and questions.

You sound like very experienced Airstreamer. And your new Classic will suit your needs very well.

A very special Christmas this year for you guys.

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Old 12-12-2018, 08:32 AM   #7
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We replaced a 2016 Classic 30 Twin with a 2018 Classic 33 Twin.
In addition to previous comments:
Classic 30 has more storage room, especially without oven.
Classic 30 has a more open lounge area and the sofa is longer, this is a plus if you have dogs and dog beds.
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Old 12-12-2018, 02:59 PM   #8
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We replaced a 2016 Classic 30 Twin with a 2018 Classic 33 Twin.
In addition to previous comments:
Classic 30 has more storage room, especially without oven.
Classic 30 has a more open lounge area and the sofa is longer, this is a plus if you have dogs and dog beds.
Is there more storage in a 30? By my estimation it’s very similar to slightly more in a 33. You have the desk drawers and extra storage in the bathroom on the 33.

Good point on the couch. We saw that as wasted space, figured we could install a small bar/table behind the dinnette if we had gone with a 30. But, we don’t have animals and I can see how that could be handy.
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Old 12-12-2018, 04:23 PM   #9
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We full time in a 30. Love the 33, a big part of why we went 30 has to do with parking restrictions. Seems like a lot less options out there when it comes to parks — you end up seeing restrictions at 30 vs a 27 but it jumps again over 30 if that makes sense.
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Old 12-17-2018, 04:22 PM   #10
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Just got word, it will arrive tommorrow at the dealer. Plan to take delivery on the 28th. Very excited.

We live in Scottsdale, about 2 miles from the dealer. I’ve heard good things about this dealer and their AS experience so if there are any issues hopefully they will be easy to resolve.
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Merry Christmas! A Christmas you will not soon forget. David
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Old 12-20-2018, 04:07 PM   #12
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A few pics of the interior. Love the light, light, dark wood. We’re super happy with it.

edit: not sure why they are rotated, they look right on my phone.
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Old 12-20-2018, 06:57 PM   #13
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Wow. It does look very nice indeed. Airstream is a master at interior designing. Very happy you like it. First impressions are important.

Phone photos don't upload well for me either. I understand they have to be "cropped" to a smaller size. I understand the Forums orients photos with the longest dimension horizontal, landscape so to speak. Next time, try to make the photo smaller.

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Old 12-20-2018, 07:27 PM   #14
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We are very happy with it. I was a little worried how it would look swapping the light couch instead of brown couch from the stock light counter configuration, but i always felt the classic had a bit of a closed in feel and going light seems to open it up. I’m surprised i’ve never been able to find any dealers with one of this configuration in stock. Id be curious how many custom ones airstream builds in a year.

I would have gotten light wood too, for the same reason, but the lighter wood always seemed more “country” looking to me, the dark is a little more modern feel.

I have yet to see it in person, my wife took the pics for me. Planning to pick it up on the 28th and go try it out for a couple nights.
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I think the top of the line Airstreams have been more of a luxurious reach dark wood and leathers interior. Did I read somewhere that the Classics are built with cherry wood cabinets? A dark motif does make them feel more closed in. In the late sixties Airstream started using these "vista" windows to let more light in.

The modern Airstreams have a lot more light inside than the vintage ones. I think yours looks great with the light colored leather furniture.

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Interestingly enough, they also have a dark dark dark at scottsdale right now. It’s interwsting co compare how much it makes it feel claustrophobic.
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Ohhhhhhh, I don't like the dark dark dark!
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Totally not my thing but kudos to whoever digs it.
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Old 12-23-2018, 05:33 PM   #19
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I wasn’t a fan either. apparently it was ordered for someone that was using it as a work trailer in a dirty environment. so they wanted all dark for that reason. But to me it seems light counters wouldn’t be prone to get dirty in an uncleanable way, and the all dark isn’t very attractive
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Just got a chance to do a walk through on our trailer. A couple interesting things I noticed. Fist they have changed the air vent design slightly. Looks like they are secured with a new locking mechanism to prevent them from falling out. Hopefully that’s true. we had vents come down a couple times.

Also, in the lockers there is a new plastic bump the makes sure the lights turn off when closed. It looks like they are glued in place. Should be an easy retrofit.
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