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Old 07-26-2015, 03:04 PM   #15
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There is no substitute for cubic inches.....
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Old 07-26-2015, 03:39 PM   #16
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There is no substitute for cubic inches.....

Well, I chose torque over CID myself. Been spark plug free for 10 years. Lots of gassers have bigger displacement.

Make mine a Cummins please.
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Old 07-26-2015, 03:59 PM   #17
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Let me begin by saying my wife and I have lived the life you are contemplating. We sold everything and became full-timers in our 1980 Airstream 31'. For six years we traveled the country and loved every minute of it. For the first three years our tow vehicle was a Durango 5.7 gasser. It did a fine job except it would slow to 40 mph climbing the Rockies. The last three years of our adventure we had a GMC 2500 Sierra 6.0 gasser. This rig went over the Rockies without slowing at all. With a factory trailer package you won't have any trouble with hitch weight or pulling power. Just keep those rear tires fully inflated. BTW, we have now settled down and are selling our 31' Airstream. Good Luck and Happy Trails........
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Old 07-26-2015, 04:56 PM   #18
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I pull a 36' Avion that grosses at 9600lbs and the wife probably loads it to 11,000lbs, and I put my bike in the bed as well. Have never had any issues of under performance of any kind; have never hit a mountain I couldn't accelerate up, including the Great Smokies and all the ones in WV. I use a Dodge 2500 long bed with the Cummins. My old 04 1/2 is rated for 13,200 lbs trailer weight....couldn't tell you what the bed capacity is off hand but I thought it was like 3000lbs (the whole 3/4 - 1 ton thing is misleading as they seem to rate them higher than that in reality).

Truth is, none of these silver trailers are much of a load for a modern turbo diesel truck. A 43' fifth wheel that weighs 18,000lbs, yes. If you had a 1-ton dually diesel from the big three, you could just about hook two of any model Airstream up back to back to make a train and pull them.

I bought my truck before I got a trailer, and wanted something big enough to pull whatever I decided to get. I "almost" got a 1-ton dually, but decided not to because (1) for the 99.9% of the time (which is really more like 60% of the time) that I'm not towing, I'm hauling around two extra wheels and tires and that's just more expense and (2) they only came with a 4.10 axle ratio (I only wanted a Dodge) and that's pretty steep for highway cruising. I maybe should have gotten a 3500 Single Rear Wheel. But, I got a deal on a 2500 HD, and it's had enough zoot to do anything I want to do. Plus, if you read "Diesel Power" magazine, the trucks are only a starting point if you want to get crazy with them.

We went to Maine two years ago, and the guy beside me had a 42' 5er that he said weighed 18,000lbs. He had an F-350 that he'd hot rodded. It had a "Nitrous Works" license plate bracket. He said he was pushing 600hp and 800 ft-lbs of torque, and that was dialed way back as he was making more like 1200 ft-lbs of torque with the hotter tune and blew up two transmissions. Said the thing was bullet proof now and he cruised at 80mph. It was quite a truck. Diesels are strong.

I've left mine stock, other than an aftermarket transmission pan so I can change the fluid without getting a bath, and it's much stronger and reinforces the tranny (Dodge's are notorious for blowing the tranny due to case flex when you start upping the hp....)

At any rate, I think you are on the right track with your original assessment.

See ya on the road,
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Old 07-26-2015, 05:02 PM   #19
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Cruises at 80??? How fast you can make it stop is way more important than how fast you can make it go. 80 is insane.
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Old 07-26-2015, 05:15 PM   #20
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Thank you to everyone who took the time to respond. I definitely have a much better idea about what I'll need for this application. A 250/2500 would probably work, but the 350/3500, especially with the motorcycle in the bed, would be a much safer solution for us.

I will be targeting a 350/3500 long bed diesel truck when the time comes to make this purchase, probably around a year from now.
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Old 07-26-2015, 05:32 PM   #21
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Our 2012 F-250 diesel has no problem handling our 31ft. Classic. Some may think it is a bit of an overkill but I would rather have too much than not enough. We can click off 12.5 mpg all day long when towing.
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Old 07-26-2015, 06:43 PM   #22
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"Doing a little more research, the GVWR of a 1998 31' Excella is 8300, plus another 1245 pounds for the tongue weight..."

It is my understanding that the tongue weight is part of the weight of the coach. Using the two numbers you mention, you have a coach that weighs 8300 pounds total. 1245 pounds are carried on the hitch ball (or tongue jack when unhooked) and 7055 pounds on the axles. Am I missing something?
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Old 07-26-2015, 06:58 PM   #23
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"Doing a little more research, the GVWR of a 1998 31' Excella is 8300, plus another 1245 pounds for the tongue weight..."

It is my understanding that the tongue weight is part of the weight of the coach. Using the two numbers you mention, you have a coach that weighs 8300 pounds total. 1245 pounds are carried on the hitch ball (or tongue jack when unhooked) and 7055 pounds on the axles. Am I missing something?
No, I simply wrote that wrong. It is correct that the tongue weight includes the weight of the trailer and is not in addition to the trailer's GVWR.
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Old 07-26-2015, 07:00 PM   #24
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Our 2012 F-250 diesel has no problem handling our 31ft. Classic. Some may think it is a bit of an overkill but I would rather have too much than not enough. We can click off 12.5 mpg all day long when towing.
How heavy is your 31' Classic?
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Old 07-26-2015, 07:39 PM   #25
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The specs I have for 98 Excellas are for 25, 28, 30, 31, and 34 feet. The dry weight ranges between 5840 and 7840 pounds. The tongue weight ranges from 760 to 820 pounds. A 1/2 ton (not too many diesels) would handle the lighter trailers A 3/4 ton or 1 ton would handle the load. I would not use a 1 ton as generally speaking the stiff suspension can cause road shock damage to the trailer. A Class V or VI Airsafe hitch will mitigate road shock.

I assume you mean a 31' Excella 1000 which may have a Classic badge. My specs say 7000# dry weight and 690# tongue weight.
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I prefer to use Gross Weight rather than dry weight when calculating loads. Dry weight is an absolutely empty coach. Gross weight is a fully loaded coach, ready to be lived in. We're looking at late-90's 34' coaches, which have gross weights of 9800 pounds. Add a hitch and I figure 10,000 pounds is what the truck will have to tow, with 1000-1500 pounds of that on the hitch.
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Old 07-26-2015, 09:11 PM   #27
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I am sure an F250 would be fine. Just for your info the F350 is only a couple of hundred dollars more for 1 extra leaf spring which would give you 5-600lbs. more payload capacity which of course would cover your bike.
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Old 07-26-2015, 09:51 PM   #28
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Hello SDNet01

It appears that you are going to spend most of your time with your Putt, AS and staff(wife or a dog) exploring the world.

Don't skimp on tow vehicle. Anything in the 1/2 ton area will not suit your needs. Trust me.

Next. the 3/4 ton vehicles will suffice, but there are times when you will be pushing the limits of the tow vehicle and you may be left afoot of have to unload your bike to get to town. Also, not a happy situation.

This is just me, but an F350 Super Duty with trailer towing package and 6.3 Lt. Diesel and 32 gallon tank, 5 gal Def tank, 8 ft bed. and you sir will comand the world anywhere you go. No problems.

If you go super cab, be darn sure the back seats fold up and leave you a flat floor to stow gear. Those trashy little seats that Ford putz in the back that fold down for cargo have felt backs that will tear and hold nothing.

6 Way from seats with console and you are King!
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