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Old 10-03-2011, 02:54 PM   #15
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In the last month, corrosion is busting out all over my 2010 23FB. It's along rivet lines, running lights, and in one spot right smack dab in the middle of a panel. I'm furious. I bought this trailer new 1 1/2 years ago and wash it before and after each trip. It is stored under cover. I'm not a waxer of cars or trucks, and certainly am not going to tackle that job on this trailer. Are we to accept that Airstream trailers corrode unless we spend hours and hours protecting the finish? To me this is crazy.
Why do we accept this obvious flaw on an expensive product?
I've sent photos to Airstream, and if they insist on telling me they are not responsible for "cosmetic" issues I'll seek legal redress. We pay big money for these trailers and should not have to accept corrosion in less than two years.
Thanks for letting me vent. I feel much better.
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:35 PM   #16
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Matt,

Whats really upsetting is the fact that AS acknowledges the problem (hard to deny the obvious), and transfers all the blame to Alcoa. After all it was JC's decision to start using the pre-coated panels in the first place.

10yrs and absolutely nothings been done to rectify the problem at the source. It's still the owners fault for not following some obscure inadequate maintenance procedure.

One consolation for me...the one I own now is the last one I will ever own.
Too late in life to obsess about a new one.

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Old 10-03-2011, 05:33 PM   #17
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Matt,

Whats really upsetting is the fact that AS acknowledges the problem (hard to deny the obvious), and transfers all the blame to Alcoa. After all it was JC's decision to start using the pre-coated panels in the first place.

10yrs and absolutely nothings been done to rectify the problem at the source. It's still the owners fault for not following some obscure inadequate maintenance procedure.

One consolation for me...the one I own now is the last one I will ever own.
Too late in life to obsess about a new one.

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Old 10-03-2011, 08:54 PM   #18
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It looks like the Airstreams exposed to salt, whether near the ocean or Gulf coast, or road salt here in the north are going to corrode. No different really than cars I have owned in those environments. The trailers and cars in Arizona have little or none. Wherever there is exposed steel or aluminum, the salt and moisture will corrode it. The unfortunate part of the Airstream build process, as they do it now, is it leaves a lot of metal edges exposed. Perhaps they should paint them instead.

But as it is, a regular wash, inspection, and treatment (Boeshield T-9 works well) program must be done to keep them in good condition, cars, trucks or Airstreams. It does not take a great deal of effort, and I think simply treating the corroded areas with a product like Boeshield T-9 regularly will keep it in check, as others here have learned.

These trailers have given us a great deal of enjoyment, much more so I am sure than any other could, so I believe the extra maintenance is worth it.

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Old 10-03-2011, 09:17 PM   #19
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It looks like the Airstreams exposed to salt, whether near the ocean or Gulf coast, or road salt here in the north are going to corrode. No different really than cars I have owned in those environments. The trailers and cars in Arizona have little or none. Wherever there is exposed steel or aluminum, the salt and moisture will corrode it. The unfortunate part of the Airstream build process, as they do it now, is it leaves a lot of metal edges exposed. Perhaps they should paint them instead.

But as it is, a regular wash, inspection, and treatment (Boeshield T-9 works well) program must be done to keep them in good condition, cars, trucks or Airstreams. It does not take a great deal of effort, and I think simply treating the corroded areas with a product like Boeshield T-9 regularly will keep it in check, as others here have learned.

These trailers have given us a great deal of enjoyment, much more so I am sure than any other could, so I believe the extra maintenance is worth it.

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Good info - I'm still not clear on one point though - when you use the Boeshield - or WD 40 that some folk say does the same thing - do you just apply it over the filform corrosion as is, or do you scrape away on top of the filiform in order to let the product penetrate well as some have suggested?


If you scrape it away, then after appyling the boeshield which will hopefully stop the progress, do you then wipe with thinner and attempt to reseal the area with clearcoat or clear nail polish, or just leave it open to the atmosphere and apply more boeshield or WD40 now and then?


I have a few spots that I want to treat.

Brian.



(PS I also have bad corrosion on battery box surrounds, door hinges and handle - I plan to sand them and paint with Thomas' Liquid stainless steel.)
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:36 PM   #20
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Brian, when we got the 2007 Safari it was two years old and had some filiform corrosion. This occurred where the cut edges exposed the bare metal, and near some rivets. It seemed to me that sanding it would only expose more metal, better to leave it and treat it. I have used both Boeshield T-9 and Corrosion X and the corrosion had not progressed in over two years, so I don't know which product is better.

Feeling that the corrosion issues are inevitable but manageable, as well as any water leaks, we just bought a new Airstream for more extended travel. We looked at the other brands and motorhomes and found nothing nearly as pleasant as the Airstream.

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Old 10-04-2011, 06:13 AM   #21
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Very interesting how different folks have differing ways of rationalizing this
concern.

Bottom line....it shouldn't be happening on new trailers, period.

Brian,

In my experience, it will spread if not covered with clear,(post 9)

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Old 10-04-2011, 04:44 PM   #22
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Bob maintains his Classic beautifully and has good advice.

When I was younger and worked on airplanes in the Navy, we would get similar corrosion where the rivets and fasteners held the aluminum. We ground it off and treated the area with zinc chromate, then painted the airplane. I wonder if the additional step of zinc chromate would be helpful on these trailers, as a corrosion inhibitor? Of course it has an opaque color to it, and the touchup would have to be silver paint.

We rationalize this problem because we don't grumble when the car rusts, we fix it or trade it off for another. If we continue to enjoy our airstream as much as we have the last one, and if the corrosion gets out of control some day, I would consider a complete silver paint job as a solution.

It would be nice if these things didn't show corrosion after only a year or two. Part of the deal with the newer aluminum coating process. For now I'll take this maintenance over polishing to keep it shiny.

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Old 10-04-2011, 05:37 PM   #23
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Same background Doug....VMGR-152 USMC
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Old 10-15-2011, 04:49 PM   #24
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''We rationalize this problem because we don't grumble when the car rusts, we fix it or trade it off for another.''

'' It would be nice if these things didn't show corrosion after only a year or two. Part of the deal with the newer aluminum coating process. For now I'll take this maintenance over polishing to keep it shiny.''

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Ha, i surely will grumble when the price tag is 50 to 100k. I'll never buy another new AS or GM truck, it's hard to make fun of China crap after owning both of these babies.

I'm not sure they told everyone that corrosion would start in about a year after owning it? I'd be willing to bet they use inferior AL and most of us know now they don't know the meaning of QC.
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:11 PM   #25
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Well, I got satisfaction to a point. AS has scheduled me to bring my 2010 23 FB back to the factory and they will treat the corrosion and reseal.
A polite reply to the fella who said we should expect rust if we live on the coast or where they treat roads with salt. BS. Yes, we do live on the Gulf, but my wife drove her BMW for over ten years here and there was no corrosion when we sold it. I think I waxed it once. I drive the hell out of my PU's and haven't had one rust since my 85 Chevy stepside.
If the auto industry can fix the problem, years ago now, AS can fix it. I'm pleased they are willing to help me, but unhappy that they've let this go on for years now.
I'll let y'all know how my factory experience goes. I'm scheduled up there on Nov. 14th.
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:16 PM   #26
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BTW: AS is still hands down the best RV on the road. If you don't believe me, go talk to a service center that works on all brands. As a shop owner in AZ told me last week, "I've worked on hundreds of RV's and there are a few good ones, BigFoot being one, but none compare to AS, especially in "behind the walls areas" you owners rarely see."
I love my AS. My only complaint is this damned corrosion.
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:33 PM   #27
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[QUOTE=Matt Kline;1054286]Why do we accept this obvious flaw on an expensive product?QUOTE]

Not to make an excuse for Airstream but in what month was your trailer built?

If the answer is December, January February or March it may have been towed through winter weather conditions on its way to the selling dealer. If the road salt was not washed off before it was placed on the lot and left to bake in the sun for several months, it may have something to do with the rapid rate of corrosion.
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Old 10-24-2011, 06:07 PM   #28
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Some War & Peace reading Airstream style...ck post 685 2 yrs old at the time and "normal" according to AS..http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...s-31743-7.html

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