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Old 09-10-2013, 01:25 PM   #15
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Did you dismount the tires from the wheels before "giving" them to the wheel purchaser? If not, then the tires came in the purchase price for liability exposure. If they were unmounted, then the chap intentionally mounted them which would relieve you of the liability issue for the tires. The bill of sale should read wheels only without tires.

The ambulance chaser lawyers are a real pain and have contributed to everyone doing the CYA thing.
Would the used tires liability concerns then logically extend to the private sale of used trailers and tow vehicles?
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Old 10-11-2013, 10:29 PM   #16
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Where are you getting the 16" steel spare wheel? How much is it?
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Old 10-12-2013, 03:51 AM   #17
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Does anyone know the current "upcharge" for ordering the 16" from the factory?? Is there any reason I cannot buy/install them after the sale?? Has anyone installed any other 16" wheels besides the OEM or OEM spec'd AS wheels??

I don't want to pay too much for a factory ordered option if there are "better" alternatives down the road. Thanks!!
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My dealer recently gave me a quote on a 2014 Flying Cloud 25FB with the 16" wheels and tires from the Eddie Bauer 25FB including a 16" spare. The cost was $1,700 plus $500 that Airstream charges for a "deviation from standard specifications" charge.

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Old 10-12-2013, 05:21 AM   #18
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Thumbs down $500...

That's certainly very devious of them...what kroc.

Guess the PM is shrinking, what with the improving RV market and all.

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Old 10-12-2013, 09:56 AM   #19
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After calling the factory I decided to go on the open market and buy the same wheels and tires. The Michelins were bought from Discount Tire Direct for $808 with free shipping back in June of 2012. On top of that Michelin provided a $70 cash card so my net was $738. They partner with a local tire store in St. Louis so mounting on the new wheels, balancing and demounting of my ST tires from my 15" Alcoa rims and disposal of the old tires cost $62.

The Tredit wheel plus a 16" spare (which looked just like my Airstream supplied spare) was $597.94 which included shipping. That price included the wheel caps, lug nuts and valves. I sold the Alcoa wheels on Craigs List to another Airstreamer for $50 each. Net cost for the wheels then was $397.94.

I still have not bought a 16" spare at this point. It probably won't be a Michelin but will be a LT E rated tire.

So far my net toal out of pocket was $1,197.94. The Airstream store's quote to me for 4 wheels tires mounted and balanced and with shipping was about $1,480. Note also that the $70 Michelin rebate would not have been available to me since Michelin does not consider Airstream as a tire dealer.

Personally if I were buying a new Airstream, I'd take the stock wheels and tires and then do what I did and buy the wheels on the open market. The tires will have value, the wheels will be brand new and if you watch the Michelin ads, you can probably get $70-$75 in rebates.

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That's certainly very devious of them...what kroc.

Guess the PM is shrinking, what with the improving RV market and all.

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Hi Robert,

I couldn't agree more!

I wouldn't mind buying the wheels and tires myself, but I'm concerned about two points. First, from an engineering standpoint, is there any difference in the axles or the way that they are mounted? Second, if I change the wheels and tires and something happens, even if not directly related to the change, what does that do to my liability and how would the insurance company react?

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Old 10-12-2013, 11:45 AM   #22
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Personally if I were buying a new Airstream, I'd take the stock wheels and tires and then do what I did and buy the wheels on the open market. The tires will have value, the wheels will be brand new and if you watch the Michelin ads, you can probably get $70-$75 in rebates.

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That is what I did on my new single axle 20' FC. My Sendel wheels were $123 each (not the very best price, but they were available, other dealers on line were out of stock), and the Tires from Costco were $232 each installed. I could not get a rebate as I only needed 2 tires, not 4. So, my total price was about $700. BTW, no Discount Tire dealer in this area.

Whatever I get from selling the "old" 15" factory tires and wheels will reduce the cost. Anyone want a pair? 3000 miles on the GYM tires. Wheels are flawless.
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I'm glad I found this thread...I'm picking up my new International Signature 27FB in a few weeks and asked the dealer for a quote on an upgrade to the 16" wheels ant tires used on the EB model...$4,150! Ridiculous! I'll look at alternatives...
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BTW, no Discount Tire dealer in this area.

Whatever I get from selling the "old" 15" factory tires and wheels will reduce the cost. Anyone want a pair? 3000 miles on the GYM tires. Wheels are flawless.
FYI if you deal with Discounttiredirect.com (their Internet outlet), they usually have discounted mounting and balancing agreements with several dealers throughout the country. In my case there is not a Discount Tire dealer in town (we have none in St. Louis). Their web site gave me a choice of about 4 dealerships, I used National Tire and Battery (NTB) since they were closest to my home. When I went there I showed them my receipt and informed them that they have a deal with Discount Tire. They looked it up in the computer and I got a discounted price for mounting balancing the tires on my new wheels, demounting the tires from the Alcoa wheels and disposing of my old ST tires ($15 each).

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16" wheels and tires

I got mine from our dealer for 325.00 plus tax and they paid shipping. Of course, I bought a new trailer from them so I expected some discount. A/S price was 368.00 plus shipping which was estimated to be 50.00 per wheel.
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I bought 5 SenDel T03-66655T wheels, 5 Michelin tires and a six sensor Dill TPMS. That way I can rotate the five tires.

SenDel makes a galvanized steel wheel (part number S62-66655TG) as well as a white painted wheel (part number S62-66655T) rated 3,500 pounds.
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We replaced our originals with four Sendel T02 wheels (same style as original Flying Cloud) and Michelin 16" tires, mounted and balanced for near $1500 from Discount Tire. In the now less likely event of a flat, the original 15" spare will work fine.

I installed them myself and sold the originals in nearly new condition for $500, so the switch to 16" Michelins was $1,000.
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Four new "good-for-a-years" at seven years...$530. Got three more years to go...goodness me, what shall I do?

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