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05-18-2009, 08:30 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2011 27' FB Flying Cloud
Bradenton and Saluda
, Florida & North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 177
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Towing 08 SE 23" FB That Bounces
We switched to a longer wheel base vehicle with a higher towing capacity. We had a 800#/8000# Reese with the older vehicle, and towing with the new, it has a bounce in the back end of the trailer (I was following in our MH).
Since the new TV has a higher towing capacity and stiffer frame, could this be causing it? Should we switch to 600# bars?
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05-18-2009, 08:40 PM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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What is your current tow vehicle? I see you had a GC. I have a 3/4 ton burb and moved down to 650lb bars, though I'm not sure the bars are what is causing bounce. Have you made sure the shocks are there?
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05-18-2009, 08:44 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2011 27' FB Flying Cloud
Bradenton and Saluda
, Florida & North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 177
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Its and 08, I assumed the shocks were there. I don't think I had the bounce with the GC, so I think maybe the bars could be the cause? Could there be something else going on with the AS shocks?
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05-18-2009, 08:53 PM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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Dunno...what is your current tow vehicle?
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05-18-2009, 10:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 23' International
La Habra
, California
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,019
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Is your rig level when hooked up? There might be too much tension on the bars. If your new Aspen has load leveling suspension, your set up should have been done with the system off if its like our Tahoe. Or is your rear end on the Aspen high? You may need to adjust the angle of the hitch head. Post pictures when hooked up. It might help with responses.
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05-19-2009, 08:05 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2011 27' FB Flying Cloud
Bradenton and Saluda
, Florida & North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 177
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Dear Subfan, the rear of the Aspen is higher than the front when unhitched. When we add the reese receiver and hook up the AS the aspen is level without the bars. What does the adjustment of the ball front or back do? Since this is the hitch we had with the GC, we had a hitch guy come out and see if it needed adjustments. We hooked it up and the trailer is level, but no adjustments were made to the ball, etc. We did go from 3 links to 4 links on the chain, but had bounce.
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05-19-2009, 09:01 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ncbambi
We switched to a longer wheel base vehicle with a higher towing capacity. We had a 800#/8000# Reese with the older vehicle, and towing with the new, it has a bounce in the back end of the trailer (I was following in our MH).
Since the new TV has a higher towing capacity and stiffer frame, could this be causing it? Should we switch to 600# bars?
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Bouncing is transfered from the tow vehicle thru the hitch bars, to the trailer.
With a given hitch bar rating, the heavier duty the tow vehicle, the greater the bounce on the trailer.
When changing to a heavier duty tow vhivl, you must lower the rating of the hitch bars.
You can drop yours to the 600 pound bars, which will noticeably help.
Double check that your trailer is equipped with shocks.
Lastly, make sure your running gear is properly balanced.
Many owners install Centramatic wheel balancers that solve the balancing problems.
Andy
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05-25-2009, 10:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 23' International
La Habra
, California
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,019
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What are your bars rated at? If you dropped links it sounds like they may have too much tension. Look at Andy's post regarding the 600lb bars.
Have you dialed your rig correct yet? I may be pretty close to buying one and I'd like to know your towing experience with your rig.
Thanks
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05-25-2009, 10:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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lighter weight bars!
Followed Andy's instructions and switched from 800 to 600 lb bars - a world of difference to the good.
Just do it.
Paula
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05-26-2009, 06:44 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2011 27' FB Flying Cloud
Bradenton and Saluda
, Florida & North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 177
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Hey Paula, just ordered the 660# bars and should be in on Wednesday! I am leaving for JC in a week and should get a good test of the new rig and the new bars - going through the blue ridge mountains and smokie mountains and on up the 75 one of the roughest roads in the US! Should be a true test, I would think!
Nancy
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05-26-2009, 11:56 AM
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New Member
Currently Looking...
Overland Park
, Kansas
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3
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Problem With The GC
Just curious.....what was the problem with the GC. Noticed you had an "08". Did you have the Hemi engine? Given the spec's of the GC, you should have had no problems towing the 23 footer.
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05-26-2009, 03:05 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2011 27' FB Flying Cloud
Bradenton and Saluda
, Florida & North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 177
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Towing Capacities
We bought the GC (Overland with Hemi 5.7L) to tow our then 08 Bambi. We then traded in the bambi for a 23' Safari.
One thing to remember is that the towing capacities that the manufactures list in their specifications are a base number. you have to consider the length, weight and tongue weight of the trailer. Were we within the specs from Jeep, yes. But when you consider the weight and wheelbase of the jeep and look at the weight specs for the AS, add any weight that is added to the Jeep (passengers, anything stowed in the back of the jeep, hitch, etc), plus the weight of the AS and all the fluids, personal belongings, etc., that is where you can see the specs erode.
Could we have continued to tow with the GC, yes, would we be constantly be worried about the next road, YES. Weighing the axle and tongue weight and all of the above factors, we would have purchased a different vehicle, which we just did.
The GC is a great vehicle, I hated to see it go, but it is safely in the 19-20' league, with anything you can load in it or the Jeep. Beyond that, get a larger TV capacity.
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06-02-2009, 11:25 AM
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Silver Lamb
1969 27' Overlander
1961 16' Bambi
Bonner Springs
, Kansas
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 55
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ACSimon, you say you are currently looking. Are you looking for Vintage or newer?
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