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03-25-2010, 05:37 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1987 32' Excella
Poplar Bluff
, Missouri
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 101
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Reese hitch failure
Well, it wasn't quite the road trip from hell, but...
I was pulling into a Dairy Queen, from a nicely paved frontage road on the highway. The driveway was gravel over soil, with a drainage ditch under the gravel drive before entering the gravel parking lot. Watching my mirrors, the curb side AS wheels hit what I thought was a minor pot hole. I heard a pop, kept on driving into the parking lot.
As I exited the tv, a trucker came walking toward me, carrying my driver side weight distribution bar! It had broken clean in half at the curve, where it rests on the Reece Dual Cam. I thought that was crazy. What was even worse, when it broke, it broke the restraining tab on the head. So I couldn't simply buy a new bar.
The system was rigged with 750 pound bars per Andy's recommendation.
I got a phone book, and proceeded to call all the RV dealers within a 75 mile radius. Found out from one he quit carrying Reece because 3 heads had broken in two years. Only way I could get parts was a 4 day wait, which was not possible.
So I ended up purchasing a new Equalizer system, which worked well on my 800 mile return trip. Of course it was a weekend... in my phone calls, even to some AS dealers, recommendations on bars were from 1,000 to 1,200 pound bars... I could not get 800 or 850 pound bars, so went with 1,000 pound bars. I'll rig it again this weekend, take it to scales and check it out and set it up as perfectly as possible.
So, now what? I plan to contact Reece tomorrow, but.... Anyone else have this kind of problem?
Regards,
Steven
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03-25-2010, 05:46 PM
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Wilton
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Hi StevenG,
I have the same system. I have two sets of bars 1200 and 850lb. Im curious what the manufacture tells you. I've often wondered how much flex these guys can take before they snap. Do you any pictures of the event?
Thanks Vinnie
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03-25-2010, 06:05 PM
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Rivet Master
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St. Catharines
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Interesting. I once sent a note to Reese asking them if it is possible to break a torsion bar and they said no, not even the very old ones.
Do you have a pic of your Reese set up prior to the break?
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03-25-2010, 06:19 PM
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2011 25' FB Flying Cloud
Anywhere &
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Had one break on me right after Christmas in Deming, NM. Discovered I had a tire with a slow leak and the next morning when I went to the tire shop was when it happened. When I turned into the parking lot had to go thru a bit of a dip while turning sharply at the same time. Bingo! Fortunately only the bar broke but nothing was available in Deming so had to drive to Las Cruces with one bar. Went ahead and ordered a new set so at least if it happens again I have a spare. Had to wait about a week but fortunately I had the time. This was a 800 lb bar. Have no pics and have already thrown the broken bar away. BTW I also have the Reese Dual Cam and the bar broke at the curved end where it rides over the cam.
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03-25-2010, 06:22 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1968 17' Caravel
2005 30' Safari
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Have you ever weighed the tongue of your 32-foot Excella?
According to factory specs, the tongue weight dry is 800 lbs. I would be willing to bet that the bars were carrying quite a bit more than that, since dry tongue weights are often way below reality.
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03-25-2010, 06:27 PM
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yeah let us all know what they say after you call them.
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03-25-2010, 06:43 PM
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2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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I've never had it happen to me, but this is not the first I've heard of it. It just stands to reason the round bars will flex more without breaking.
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Regards,
Steve
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03-25-2010, 08:46 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1987 32' Excella
Poplar Bluff
, Missouri
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 101
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Unfortunately I have no pictures of the setup prior to failure.
I have both 750 pound, and 1,000 pound bars. The weight of the AS was 7400 pounds, when I weighed it prior to setup. I weighed the truck and trailer several times, with different set ups. The best weight distribution was with the 750 pound bars, and 4 links. Andy has reported that using the lighter bars gives a better tow, heavier bars will eventually pop rivets and damage the trailer. That was my rationale for the setup I used.
I can post weight info tomorrow, and will call Reece tomorrow.
Regards,
Steven
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03-26-2010, 05:33 AM
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
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Am I correct in assuming all these failures are occurring on the "new" style bars where the notch for the dual cam sway is bent into the bar end instead of the older one where the piece was bolted on the end of the bar??
Also are any of these failures where someone is simply using the bar with the chain, but not the dual cam set up.
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03-26-2010, 05:52 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 31' Classic
holland
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Oct 2008
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your lucky that didnt happen while you were at highway speeds.even on interstates sometimes you will hit heaves in the road that can put part of the rig airborne.with my heavy ill stick with the 1400lb bars and the hensley.when i had a reese i used the 1200lb bars.
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03-26-2010, 06:07 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1972 Argosy 26
1973 Argosy 26
Fairmont
, West Virginia
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I tought this was a normal issue for most all I have had several over the years snap on many other things then just The Airstream
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03-26-2010, 07:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Classic
N/A
, Texas
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One more point: If you have the old style reese bars with the bolt on feet do not ever flip the bar over and re attach the feet and the trunions on the opposite side of the bar. It will cause the bars to break. In other words, keep the bend in the bar always going the same way.
With the new style bars they eliminated that possibility with the curved ends.
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03-26-2010, 11:07 AM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
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Hitch weight
According to the data on Airstreams web site (copy below), the empty hitch weight for a 87 Excella 32 is 800# .
87 Excella.pdf
If that is true, I am guessing that the loaded hitch weight, if trailer is loaded correctly, is significantly more than that.
Since the 750# bars are designed to distribute properly a max of 750# of tongue weight, and you may have been quite a bit above that, to me it is not unreasonable that it failed.
Regards,
Ken
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03-26-2010, 11:14 AM
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Wilton
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Did someone ask Andy his opinion on this? He may be able to explain what happened as you set it up the way he suggested.
Vin
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03-29-2010, 01:58 PM
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A.K.A "THE STREAM"
2010 25' FB International
Arlington
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Any answer yet from Reese?
SHane
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03-29-2010, 06:16 PM
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A.K.A "THE STREAM"
2010 25' FB International
Arlington
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2009
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bump
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03-30-2010, 07:44 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1981 25' Excella II
Dillon
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 397
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For what it's worth I bought a new Reese round bar system last Spring with the intention of adding the dual cam later which I've now purchased.
The hitch head where the wd bars are inserted wore out after only towing for a few thousand miles over this past summer. I'm not happy with the quality of this hitch considering that my old wd hitch was at least 20 years old and still in perfect working order. I called Reese and described this issue to their tech dept. They said that I may have received a hitch head that was out of spec from the factory and had seen a few cases like mine. They shipped me a new hitch head at no cost within a few days. We'll see how this one holds up. I must say that I was impressed with how they stood behind their product. They didn't even have me send in a proof of purchase. I'd think they should have no problem standing behind your issue.
Charlie
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03-30-2010, 11:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Classic
N/A
, Texas
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StevenG, What's the word from Reese?
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