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Old 12-23-2014, 01:49 AM   #113
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Yes, I think we all modify this rule, and as I may have mentioned, I also cycle through mirrors and rear camera so I know what is around me. Speed can be adjusted to adapt to traffic easier when I am aware of folks in the rear "blind spots" because the excellent mirrors eliminate this when combined with the camera.


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Old 12-23-2014, 06:34 AM   #114
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Old 12-23-2014, 09:51 AM   #115
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The factory flip tow mirrors on our 2012 Dodge 2500HD could really be a few inches wider to "see" behind the trailer closer than several hundred feet behind it.

We installed the Voyager camera on the rear of the Classic and their display on the dash. That system makes a tremendous difference in situational awareness that I lacked with the first Airstream trailer.
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Old 12-24-2014, 05:51 AM   #116
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Big difference for our towing was going to an F350 Diesel with "load" package of 11,500 pounds. We use an equalizer, tow at between 65-70 or posted limits with no sway issues - yet. You all want to experience sway, try a 40' Gas SOB motorhome towing a 4,500 pound Jeep. One trip and I understood what sway was all about. Sold it after six months.

My theory is if a ball makes you happy and comfortable, use it, if a Reese or Equalizer make you happy and comfortable use it, if a PP or Hensley make you happy and comfortable use them - its a personal thing, what one person finds difficult to handle in wind or passing truck another may find simply part of the experience, no one person is wrong and no one person is right, what is, is. We are simply happy to be able to tour the US and run the highways of this great country in our AS.
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Old 12-24-2014, 08:31 AM   #117
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But still,,,,,

A Hensley or a ProPride, while expensive, are only a fraction of the price of an F-350...

Pre Hensley, when conditions were right, and I got much above about 60 or 65 I knew what sway was.

From the beginning of this thread I have been stating that the reason I am advocating these hitches is because they make pulling an Airstream more enjoyable.

Additionally, despite the associated backlash for taking a stand on such a matter here, I think it is important to publicly recognize that these expensive products do exactly what they are advertised to do, and they do it well. These ARE EXCELLENT PRODUCTS, and that.fact deserves to be shared.

It is nice to be able to drive down the highway and to be able to forget that passing large vehicles produce bow waves.

I agree that people should use what they are comfortable with, but people should be informed what is available, and people who visit these pages should know that a product is available that can and will eliminate all sway, virtually eliminate the effect of bow waves, and completely alter the way a combination feels in an incredibly positive way.

I haven't yet pulled the trailer in a strong crosswind, so I will post a review on this when I cross that bridge.


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Old 12-24-2014, 09:37 AM   #118
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Been reading this thread from the start without comment. My thoughts are almost all RV'ers enjoy driving, or they wouldn't do it.

Don't own a ProPride at this time, but feel qualified to comment on them as I towed with one for several years, several different trailers, and over 50K miles. Basically, they do just what the manufacturer says they will do, totally eliminate sway, but you need to qualify that as oscillatory sway.

Are they worth the money? I think so. Are they without issues? I don't think so. Do they eliminate sway from the bow wave of a passing truck, yes as defined as oscillatory sway. Do you still feel the truck passing? I did unless I moved way over in my lane, and if I do that today with my current hitch, a Reese SC, I don't feel the truck either.

The issue I had with the ProPride that influenced me to change was a bad Dodge factory brake controller that had a delay in applying the trailer brakes, causing the ProPride yoke to slip in anything similar to a quick application of the brakes. The Hensley I'm told will do "the bump" also if the trailer brakes are not just right. Basically, the trailer brakes need to lead the truck brakes just a bit for optimum performance.

The other issues that I had with the PP was hitching up if the truck and trailer were not on the same horizontal plain, and this caused me to disconnect the bars to hook up on two different occasions. Not a bid deal, but I still consider it an issue. The last one was I had difficulty in getting the proper amount of weight distribution with a heavy tongued trailer even with the largest bars made. Not sure, but I attribute this to the long distance to the pivot point behind the trailer.

I will say that when I bought the PP I had a 25' that had bad sway problems that I learned was caused by misaligned axles. Even after having the axles aligned, it still had significant sway with any sort of input above 60MPH (don't think they did a perfect job of realigning the thing). This was with a Reese DC hitch. Anyway, when I added the PP, there was NO MORE sway.

Sorry about this being so long. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.
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Old 12-24-2014, 02:33 PM   #119
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Joy in driving.

I cant say boo about any other WD/AS hitch, no experience at all.

What I do know is that the Hensley designed hitches make a huge difference.

On the brake thing, I have a mental need to feel the trailer brakes before I feel the truck brakes. I despise the time delay style brake controllers, and if mine was broken like yours was it would drive me nuts.

Merry Christmas Steve, and all the rest of the forum, and to all I offer my best wishes for the year to come.

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JMorgan, have a look at BenKs posts on Woodalls in re activating the brake switch circuitry earlier.


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JMorgan, have a look at BenKs posts on Woodalls in re activating the brake switch circuitry earlier.


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Old 12-26-2014, 10:46 AM   #122
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The Tuson DirecLink controller seemed to cure the "bump" for us as it senses data from the OBDII port like the foot coming off the accelerator enrollee to the brake pedal.

We had the Hensley Arrow on the 25FB and decided to use the second generation ProPride for the Classic. Being a second generation design from Jim Hensley, there are many subtle improvements including no drilling into the frame and easier to use jacks.
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Old 12-26-2014, 11:07 AM   #123
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Joy in driving.

Sounds like a very cool controller. I am going to look into that one.

I bought the Hensley Arrow because it came available used for $1,200 delivered.

Had I bought new I likely would have bought the PP because a. It is cheaper, and b. I like that the owner of the company posts on this forum.

It takes character and a real belief in his product to put himself out there like he does.

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Old 12-26-2014, 03:30 PM   #124
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The Tuson DirecLink controller seemed to cure the "bump" for us as it senses data from the OBDII port like the foot coming off the accelerator enrollee to the brake pedal.

We had the Hensley Arrow on the 25FB and decided to use the second generation ProPride for the Classic. Being a second generation design from Jim Hensley, there are many subtle improvements including no drilling into the frame and easier to use jacks.

Hey Switz, does that brake controller apply the brakes harder with regard to g force, or is it a timed application?

I couldn't tell by reading the online documentation.


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Old 12-26-2014, 03:56 PM   #125
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Yes, I think we all modify this rule, and as I may have mentioned, I also cycle through mirrors and rear camera so I know what is around me. Speed can be adjusted to adapt to traffic easier when I am aware of folks in the rear "blind spots" because the excellent mirrors eliminate this when combined with the camera.


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This is good practice. Every few seconds (5-8 seconds) you should check your left rear view mirror, instruments (speed, temperature, fuel level, rpm), rear view mirror (or camera monitor), out the front windshield for road signs, right mirror, and back again to know what's around you and the condition of your vehicle and road conditions. At work, we call this "surveying with your eyes"- observing vehicle status and traffic and road conditions.
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I've been RVing since 1990 (all travel trailers) after awhile you acquire a few "lessons learned". This is why we upgraded to as Airstream earlier this year. Our Ram 3500 4x4 CCSB CTD has been the perfect tv for us (as we carry the heavy stuff in the back of the truck).

Our maiden voyage was almost 6,000 miles long and our combination towed like a dream. While I know better than to get too relaxed while driving, it was never a "white knuckle" experience. In this light, I enjoyed the towing experience... the first thing I told my bride when we returned home was that we have to start getting ready for our next vacation.

I (we) can hardly wait 'til retirement.


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