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Old 10-23-2007, 01:40 PM   #29
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Wow, it turns to the right just great. The 4 bar himsley works as advertised
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And a left turn! I'm ready for the road at last.
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:44 PM   #31
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OH NO! The left side trailer brakes have locked and it's swerving off the road!(Imagine skid marks ) Luckly the Mini is still staying straight even though the trailer turned. (I know this beacuse it's locked into position in the cad system and the trailer made the move)
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:46 PM   #32
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not again

Oh man, the rough ride made the left brakes release only to have the right side lock! (did I get that backwards in the previous post? ) here goes the trailer to the right!
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:47 PM   #33
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Kaboom

My new mini has had enough .

It's a simple 4 bar linkage ...

The photos should have enough resolution to zoom in on the hitch

Hold off on the flames- it's probably the best product on the market, but it does act like a 5th wheel (that's a good thing!)
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:04 PM   #34
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oops

Here's a closeup of the model I used. Let me know if it's wrong, I did the best I could from the info available
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Nice polish job on that trailer - what compound did you use?
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:19 PM   #36
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Nice polish job on that trailer - what compound did you use?
It's called a psyco polisher
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:10 PM   #38
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Yes, a Hensley CAN sway.

I've not owned or pulled with a Hensley. However the claims that it cannot sway seem to be a little far fetched to me. After studying how the thing works in this thread, all that needs to happen for there to be a major sway induced, or possibly even a wreck, is for the rear wheels of the tow vehicle to go into a slide to the side. Granted, this senario would also be a major problem for any other type of tow vehicle/trailer combo...even a fifth wheel, but the fact remains, there is nothing that is perfect. IMHO, not even the Hensley.

The thing that needs to be kept in mind when towing, is that you are towing a trailer, and to drive accordingly. But, that is just my opinion and your mileage may differ.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:20 PM   #39
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yup, prep work for the big meeting went quicker than expected and the boss is out...
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:09 PM   #40
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There are members who would object to even that playful, hopeful idea...

I LOVE this forum and all of the erudite, thoughtful and funny people who post on it. I also enjoy the idea that everyone is searching for the safest towing experience. I also admire how people can disagree without abandoning the basic courtesies that are no longer "common courtesy".

I'm coming up on my three year anniversary as an Airstream owner and I've learned almost everything I know about Airstreams and safe towing from this forum. (The cartoon character Hank Hill did teach me about basic propane safety, though.) I've seen two or three wrecked RV's where everyone luckily survived and I've learned one important concept. You CAN tow with everything in the world set up WRONG and everything will be fine - perhaps for years! But... sooner or later carelessness, stupidity or risk taking will jump up and bite you.

Good safety gear is important, but paying attention, slowing down and yielding the right of way to agressive drivers will keep you safer than anything else. If you're going to have a flat it's better to have it happen at 50 mph than at 70. If your rig suddenly goes unstable going downhill, it's a helluva lot easier to get it back under control if you're going 45 than if you're cruising at 70. It's a lot better to arrive half an hour late than be in a wreck.

BTW... why didn't the "leggo man" show us what would happen to sway if you added a weight distributing hitch setup? And I too thought he put a lot less force in turning the Hensley'd trailer than in the plain ball hitch. I CAN see the benefits of a Hensley over a ball & chain hookup... but howabout compared to a Reese dual cam?

Well I still got something out of the video.. and I know if I see a Hensley sitting at a garage sale I'll snap it up... BYE and See you all going down the road SAFELY.

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which brings this cartoonish thread back near the other 'yes BUTT head' threads on the topic.

we trace and retrace which only makes the rut deeper, but in my posts and for the purposes of debate this still applies...

the haha DOES eliminate sway completely...

IF sway is defined as lateral movement of the trailer on the ball (fishtailing)...

(angulated and alternating movement while moving forward)

properly setup the trailer move as if it were on rails, connected as ONE to the tv....

all potential lateral instability however, is NOT eliminated.

but the tv would need to lose traction and then the 2 would move together side to side.

i don't think that is how sway is traditionally defined.

that would be the 'sheet hittiin the fan' in scientific terms.....


the better term might be trailer induced yaw of the tv, but i'm not savy enough to be sure...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...tml#post466512

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the claims that it cannot sway seem to be a little far fetched to me...all that needs to happen....is for the rear wheels of the tow vehicle to go into a slide to the side...
so while we may all be typing 'sway' clearly the word is being used for ALL slip sliding away....

and again brakes need to function, brake controller needs to work, traction, gravity and a driver with a HEAD are required.

can you wreck any rig combo? sure just like wrecking a thread or a topic or relationships...

but it takes a lotta effort!

many of us have gone to extra and repeated efforts to also explain that...

if the trailer brakes FAIL (or the controller) and the driver BRAKES while turning and going down hill on black ice on a roadway banked away from the apex...

bad things will happen but it isn't termed sway.

also this hitch doesn't protect against atomic fallout, bullies, road collapse or networknitwits...

all clearly other forms of sway.

these guys did a great job of exchanging ideas on how the haha 'works' for a few pages...

and until the silliness hit.

looks like we can be proud of getting to that point MUCH quicker.

Woodalls Open Roads Forum: Travel Trailers: Hensley Arrow: How does it REALLY work?

the cad is cute and exactly on par with the video, GOOD JOB!

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My only reason, well the main reason, I did the cad files was to show that if someone understands from all of our verbage that a hitch can keep a trailer from ever possibly swinging side to side, they could be mistaken. A hitch that mimics a 5th wheel setup can have the same great result as a 5th wheel - a side force on the trailer has a much smaller tendency to rotate the TV and start uncontrolled oscillations. If that is the root defination of 'sway' then I'm on the same page as ya'll. It could be intrepreted incorrectly - "the 18 wheeler started to sway and then hit the ditch" - could never happen by the above definition of 'sway'. I guess it's all in the definitions.

All said, it's a great product and helps many folks enjoy the Airstream experience that otherwise might not

Oh yea, the other reason I did the images - it was fun!
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