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Old 11-24-2006, 10:13 PM   #29
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I'm wondering why somebody doesn't just incorporate something like the Hensley right into the design of the tongue itself. Forget having a separate hitch attached to a ball clamp. Just build the tongue of the trailer itself to be like a HA and just have the stinger and bars coming off the trailer itself as one integrated unit. I might consider such a thing for my new frame


Hi Jim. I think that is a great Idea; Buy a trailer and hook it up to your tow vehicle, sway control and weight distribution built in.


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Old 11-25-2006, 09:45 AM   #30
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I have seen a number of posts knocking the Hensley Arrow because of its cost. I haven't seen any posts that berate those who choose to spend the same amount to have a disc brake conversion done on their Airstream. Are not these people also fools for spending that much money to feel safe?
if its just to "feel" safe, then yeah, perhaps. to actually BE safer..no, not at all.

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I have seen some other brand owners tout their brand and insinuate that Hensley owners are stupid for spending that much money on a hitch.
I don't think anyone is doing that at all. Its not a "one size fits all" type of situation. There's just so many variables to consider. You might be "stupid" if you were in debtor's court, declaring bankruptcy, and then went out and bought a Hensley (with a credit card) and put it on a vintage bambi that you pull 3 times a year with an F-350. That might be "stupid", even without the bad finances. The other end of the spectrum would be full timing in a new trailer/tv combination...to this person, a HA is "cheap insurance".
the rest of us are somewhere in between, and the fact remains, that really really effective sway control can be had for a fraction of the cost of a HA.

Brakes are a different situation...and not nearly as expensive. Brakes wear out, too...and in order to get ~the best~, you only have to spend about twice as much. Maybe thats why you don't see the same kind of "balking" at the idea.
In some situations, it isn't clear to me that there would be any particular advantage to disc brakes. again, it all depends on the rig, the driving conditions, and the finances. My trailer has the same amount of braking power as some trailers that weigh twice as much. I can easily lock the wheels if the controller is set any higher than half way. "0" is as slow as those wheels will turn. ahh, but then there's "fade" on long, steep grades...well, I never drive on those, and have no plans to traverse the rockies any time soon. combine that with my limited fincances, and I don't think it would be a wise investment. But if I win the mega-bucks, I'm going to run right out and buy both. and a bigger trailer to go with them.
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Old 11-25-2006, 09:52 AM   #31
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if its just to "feel" safe, then yeah, perhaps. to actually BE safer..no, not at all.


I don't think anyone is doing that at all. Its not a "one size fits all" type of situation. There's just so many variables to consider. You might be "stupid" if you were in debtor's court, declaring bankruptcy, and then went out and bought a Hensley (with a credit card) and put it on a vintage bambi that you pull 3 times a year with an F-350. That might be "stupid", even without the bad finances. The other end of the spectrum would be full timing in a new trailer/tv combination...to this person, a HA is "cheap insurance".
the rest of us are somewhere in between, and the fact remains, that really really effective sway control can be had for a fraction of the cost of a HA.

Brakes are a different situation...and not nearly as expensive. Brakes wear out, too...and in order to get ~the best~, you only have to spend about twice as much. Maybe thats why you don't see the same kind of "balking" at the idea.
In some situations, it isn't clear to me that there would be any particular advantage to disc brakes. again, it all depends on the rig, the driving conditions, and the finances. My trailer has the same amount of braking power as some trailers that weigh twice as much. I can easily lock the wheels if the controller is set any higher than half way. "0" is as slow as those wheels will turn. ahh, but then there's "fade" on long, steep grades...well, I never drive on those, and have no plans to traverse the rockies any time soon. combine that with my limited fincances, and I don't think it would be a wise investment. But if I win the mega-bucks, I'm going to run right out and buy both. and a bigger trailer to go with them.

The point of my post was that I should be able to post my opinions. They are valid; I have the experience to back them up. You opinions are valid also, and I respect that, and I read them with interest. What I don't respect touting you opinion at the expense of mine. And, by the way, I was quoted a price of $2,500.00 for a disc brake conversion on my Safari. I paid $2,000.00 for my HA when I purchased my Airstream. I would say that doesn't fall into the category of "not nearly as expensive".
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The point of my post was that I should be able to post my opinions. .... What I don't respect touting you opinion at the expense of mine
This is landmine territory! Please Be Careful! Please.

From what I see here, no one was disallowing the posting of opinions nor was any one opinion made at the expense of another.

We do need to be very careful to discriminate between opinion and fact, especially where these overlap in subjective measures often used for things like safety. We shouldn't let one person's risk vs benefit analysis threaten our own. It is probably best to use it to temper our understanding and to learn about others and their values.

Just because someone does not agree with you or sees things differently does not mean they exclude you or your ideas or your viewpoint. They just have differing ideas and viewpoints.

When it comes to things we are passionate about we have to be very careful about how we read what others post. We can all help each other and the conversation if we stick as close as possible to what was actually said and the ask for confirmation and verification before we take off on thinking something ugly about someone else. Discuss the subject and the words posted and not perceptions of the people or motivations behind them. Disagree but please don't threaten or judge. Explain rather than assert.

Let's allow a bit of room for others so we don't kill another thread on an important topic, please!
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