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02-07-2011, 11:41 PM
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Hillbilly Hagrid
1973 29' Ambassador
Stanford
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 114
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Brokenhearted and confused..is there a hitch system that will give me some distance
First let me say thanks and introduce myself....This forum taught me a lot about what I needed to look for in my search for my dream Airstream...My name is Bubba and Im an Air-cooled VW mech in Lexington Ky..
I searched for years for my dream Airstream..... I brought home a 29ft Ambassador tonight...I noticed when I was turning that the bumper of my truck looked very close to the trailer.... then when I tried to back it into my driveway I found that I can only turn a very short amount before the bumper dug into the side of my dream Airstream tearing a hole in it..I was sick....
I drive a 2001 F350 Diesel Dually with a Reading utility bed...the bed and bumper are exactly as wide as the Airstream.....so you see the problem..
My question is....is there a hitch system that will give me some distance between my truck and my Airtream? I couldn't use the funky hitch sway system that came with it because my truck was to high..so I used a cheap Reese drop hitch on it to get it home....
Its on the street with a dent/hole in it... I cant back it in anywhere like this...please help...
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02-07-2011, 11:47 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KyMoonshine
First let me say thanks and introduce myself....This forum taught me a lot about what I needed to look for in my search for my dream Airstream...My name is Bubba and Im an Air-cooled VW mech in Lexington Ky..
I searched for years for my dream Airstream..... I brought home a 29ft Ambassador tonight...I noticed when I was turning that the bumper of my truck looked very close to the trailer.... then when I tried to back it into my driveway I found that I can only turn a very short amount before the bumper dug into the side of my dream Airstream tearing a hole in it..I was sick....
I drive a 2001 F350 Diesel Dually with a Reading utility bed...the bed and bumper are exactly as wide as the Airstream.....so you see the problem..
My question is....is there a hitch system that will give me some distance between my truck and my Airtream? I couldn't use the funky hitch sway system that came with it because my truck was to high..so I used a cheap Reese drop hitch on it to get it home....
Its on the street with a dent/hole in it... I cant back it in anywhere like this...please help...
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There are two things you can do.
1. Use a ball mount that has a longer square bar.
2. Install a hitch box on the front of your truck.
Andy
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02-08-2011, 12:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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First the not so awful news. Your lower panels are pretty easy to replace. You could even take it to Jackson Center Ohio to the factory - once you solve the hitch issue.
Secondly, look at a Reese dual cam hitch with an adjustable trunnion... It'll add about 8 inches distance. A ProPride or a Hensley would add a few inches too. You could always have something custom made in the worst case - or you could even replace the tongue of the Airstream with a longer one. It's a fair sized welding job but not impossible.
You'll get past this,
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02-08-2011, 04:03 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1972 27' Overlander
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 180
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My F-250 has the same problem on the back bumper. I have a front hitch like Andy suggested. It is great. It makes it easy to get into tight spots too.
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02-08-2011, 06:12 AM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,169
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There a a number of alternatives.
Starting with the most drastic well you could use the TorkLift Superhitch which is available in variable extensions up to 60" long. The longer ones are less stable so you don't want to overdo it but if you really need some extra length here you go:
Torklift web site
I use and recommend the Propride hitch which will move the pivot point a little to the rear, maybe by a foot or so. That might be enough.
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02-08-2011, 06:38 AM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Greetings from the Florida Panhandle
First off, welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.
I sorry about your pain. Self-inflicted dings like this are really disheartening. Possibly, the easiest and least expensive solution is to get a hitch extension as is used by some truck campers. It is simply a one foot or two foot extension that goes into your tow vehicle's receiver and has another 2" receiver on the other end. Truck campers use these to tow a small boat or utility trailer behind their truck camper. These would not be sufficient to tow an Airstream on the highway, but may be suitable for temporary use for the purpose of backing the Airstream and providing sufficient distance from the tow vehicle.
For the road, a Hensley Arrow Hitch System, would add about a foot of additional distance from the tow vehicle.
Brian
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02-08-2011, 07:11 AM
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Hillbilly Hagrid
1973 29' Ambassador
Stanford
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 114
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Thanks guys for the help.... I am going to take it over to my local Hitch and trailer shop today and see what they can do to get me in my driveway..then Ill look into some of these hitches you have recommended.... wow the prices on some of them are crazy expensive..will I need sway and load distribution etc? my truck is a bear...it doesn't even know the Airsteam is back there... Airstream came with an antique looking hitch and two long bars with short chains...I suspect its an old load system of some type......
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02-08-2011, 07:57 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Currently Looking...
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,062
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The antique looking hitch, if the square post to receiver ball piece, is a rare piece, seems like trailers often get transferred without them... and if you have the complete assembly should be used...
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02-08-2011, 08:01 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 30' Argosy
Havelock
, where we park it
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,652
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Air Safe hitch
Hello and Welcome
Check out Air Safe Hitch .. we have this with a dual cam reese setup... love it.
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Niki (fur baby)
1979 Argosy 30 (Costalotta)
WBCCI 10103
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02-08-2011, 08:52 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 19' Bambi
2005 18' Westphalia
Evans
, GA
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 218
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Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear about your mishap.
As an air-cooled VW tech, what do you work on? The early rear engine models?
Our son wants to be an Audi/VW technician and we have been wondering how to approach his training. He is an 18 year old 100% home schooled student. Our older son went the traditional college route but this son's career path has us a bit baffled.
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02-08-2011, 09:43 AM
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Rivet Master
1965 22' Safari
Vassar
, Michigan
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 848
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Welcome - You can try one of these extra long receiver shanks. I use one of these and it moves my AS back far enough so I can drop the tailgate of my pickup without hitting the elect. jack. It's a bit pricey but works great for me. Equal-i-zer Shank - 4 Drop, 8 Rise x 18 Length - $149.99
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TAC MI 14
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02-08-2011, 02:03 PM
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Hillbilly Hagrid
1973 29' Ambassador
Stanford
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tkasten
Welcome - You can try one of these extra long receiver shanks. I use one of these and it moves my AS back far enough so I can drop the tailgate of my pickup without hitting the elect. jack. It's a bit pricey but works great for me. Equal-i-zer Shank - 4 Drop, 8 Rise x 18 Length - $149.99
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do you tow your rig down the highway with this? or just use it to back up?
I went to my local RV Stealership and purchased a $50.00 18" extension to get it into my driveway....worked excellent....but I now have to approach what set-up to use to get the AS back far enough from my TV so I don't bind it into my bumper turning corners and backing up....it need to be a solid set-up as I plan to really take the AS for a long drive.....
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02-08-2011, 02:06 PM
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Hillbilly Hagrid
1973 29' Ambassador
Stanford
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird's Nest
Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear about your mishap.
As an air-cooled VW tech, what do you work on? The early rear engine models?
Our son wants to be an Audi/VW technician and we have been wondering how to approach his training. He is an 18 year old 100% home schooled student. Our older son went the traditional college route but this son's career path has us a bit baffled.
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I work on air-cooled rear engine Beetles and Buses mostly.... I own a Thing and a lot of other VW's as well......
I was taught by an old hippie VW guy long ago...lol
My friend is an Audi tech and loves it...some really complicated stuff
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02-15-2011, 03:37 PM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,418
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I'm just not clear on why you are having a problem. I have an '06 Dodge single wheel 3500 megacab, diesel. It has a short bed factory setup. I have the factory hitch and also a superhitch that was added on. It sits below the factory receiver, same length. Perhaps my trailer has an extra long "A" frame or yours has a short one but I don't have any trouble with my turns. I've been into some fairly tight spots and get in and out with little manouvering so I just don't see the issue. Does your bed have an extra long overhang ????? So long as I am sitting straight I can drop my tailgate and clear the electric lift also. As suggested there are some alternatives that may help but beware of adding a longer draw bar as it will alter your towing dynamics. It may, however, be a relatively easy and inexpensive solution. I hope you can overcome this issue without too much trouble and enjoy many miles of towing and camping. We sure do enjoy ours.
As an aside I hope you will plan a trip to your own Kentucky Land Bet. the Lakes. It is nearby for you and a great family camping location. Enjoyed it ourselves summer before last.
Many happy miles, Be Safe
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" Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all the rest"
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TAC - NJ 18
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02-15-2011, 04:24 PM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,418
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Oh, and bye-the-way. Sorry about your mishap. When we got our 30' Excella it also has a dimple on the front right lower panel. In an earlier posting Foiled Again had mentioned about having the panel replaced. If anyone has had one replaced any ideas of an approximate cost to have one done ????? Is it worth taking it to the factory to have it done and about how much, and how long ????? I hadn't really thought about it. I've just been living with it but now you've got me thinking about fixing it.
Thanks all, this is a great forum, Keep it up.
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Roger in NJ
" Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all the rest"
Winston Churchill 1948
TAC - NJ 18
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02-15-2011, 11:20 PM
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Hillbilly Hagrid
1973 29' Ambassador
Stanford
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 114
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The problem is my utilty bed...its as wide as my AS...and the AS has a very short tongue..... I can barely pull out onto the highway before the bumper is into the AS.......
This is my truck with a car trailer that has a very long tongue...
Above photo is to show you how wide bumper is...and yes I was very stuck..lol
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02-16-2011, 12:02 PM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,418
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I see your's is very squared off. Mine is factory and is perhaps a bit more rounded. In it's prior life I know my trailer had a new "A" frame installed by the previous owner. The battery box had leaked battery acid and corroded the inner ends of the "A" frame. So he had it cut out and a new and heavier one installed. It is perhaps also longer. I just wouldn't know. Hopefully you have found some options that won't break the bank so you can safely manage. I like the Old VW Bus on the trailer. I have a friend in Kansas that's been wanting one of those for some time. If you have one or know of one that's been re-conditioned let me know. I'll put him in contact. Just gotta love those VW air cooled motors. Like the energizer bunny.....
I have a question for the forum. I've been hanging around here for about 2 years or so. After reading a few posts I can usually pick up the lingo that has evolved here as it pertains to Airstreams. I just have not been able to figure just what the term SOB is referring to. I gather that it in a refrence to trailers of manuf. other than Airstream. But just what does it mean ??????
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" Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all the rest"
Winston Churchill 1948
TAC - NJ 18
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02-16-2011, 12:30 PM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,881
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SOB=Some Other Brand or Same Old Box.
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02-16-2011, 12:50 PM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,418
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Thanks for that. Would never of thought of that one.
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Roger in NJ
" Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all the rest"
Winston Churchill 1948
TAC - NJ 18
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04-21-2011, 04:24 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1988 34' Excella
Troy
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 18
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Welcome...I recently purchased the Airsafe hitch...I had to extend my power umbilical cord and chains about a foot...I don't know if that distance is adequate...but, if it is ...it would certainly add safety to your extended use of your AS as stated....Airsafe.com
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