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Old 09-14-2013, 08:59 AM   #43
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Yes but not all of the weight is resting on the axles. The jack stand and hitch carry a portion of the weight. I have spent a lot of time with a Sherline hitch scale and unlimited weighs at the local co-op scales in order to measure various set-ups with my Ford Ecoboost and VW Touareg. Remember, all of the manufacturer ratings are calculated numbers based on some theoretical formula. I'm not aware of any manufacturer that has done actual tests adding weight until something breaks in order to set empirical towing and hitch and payload weights.

I'm not saying it is safe to ignore these numbers but I do average around 15K miles of AS towing annually and have been doing so with these vehicles for the past 7 years so I am pretty comfortable with what they can do when at max limits.
Please tell that to the CAT scales.....

I believe these tickets accurately represent the "on the road load" for our Classics' axles. (un-sprung excluded).

I would feel much more better with 500lbs wiggle room.

Not to mention adding a little to our 676lb CCC, a bit of a joak in itself.

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Yeah, I've got a varied collection of weight tickets, none of which match as I am continuously adding and subtracting items and testing different methods of packing with both tow vehicles. Just need to learn what you really need and what you don't based on where you're going and kind of camping planned.
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Old 09-14-2013, 09:42 AM   #45
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Thats our problem also....and exactly why I would love a little more actual CCC.
It's also why the trailer goes on stands for Winter storage.....save the axle's for actual road work. (better for tires too)

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Please tell that to the CAT scales.....

I believe these tickets accurately represent the "on the road load" for our Classics' axles. (un-sprung excluded).

I would feel much more better with 500lbs wiggle room.

Not to mention adding a little to our 676lb CCC, a bit of a joak in itself.

Bob
Bob, I know you have a heavier tow vehicle than I did when I towed the 25' Classic, but you must carry A LOT of really HEAVY STUFF in your trailer as you are almost 1600 pounds heavier than I was.
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Bob, I know you have a heavier tow vehicle than I did when I towed the 25' Classic, but you must carry A LOT of really HEAVY STUFF in your trailer as you are almost 1600 pounds heavier than I was.
Yep....set for 3wks 'dock'n. on that trip.

I was waiting in the grocery store parking lot when the DW came back with at least 250lbs more STUFF

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We have a 2013 Ford F-150, 6 cylinder with Ecoboost. In September we took a 7,000 mile trip towing our 25 foot 1997 Airstream Excella, round trip to the Grand Canyon. We had no problem towing at all. Our gas mileage while towing was between 11 and 12 mpg.

The most interesting experience was towing out of the Palo Duro canyon in Texas. The incline is approximately 10 degrees for about a mile. The F-150 never got over 2,000 RPM, and came out of the canyon with no problem at all. We are quite satisfied with the F-150.
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Would you care to elaborate on that?




Not following the "Max Payload" of a vehicle as provided by the vehicle manufacturer and only utilizing the tow vehicle ratings.


This has lead to our famous saying around here - "The scales are your best friend"!


Those familiar with these threads will know what I am referencing.
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Not following the "Max Payload" of a vehicle as provided by the vehicle manufacturer and only utilizing the tow vehicle ratings.


This has lead to our famous saying around here - "The scales are your best friend"!


Those familiar with these threads will know what I am referencing.
Ah. Thank you.
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I will admit though, I am the first one to sometimes "overanalyze" something so....
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