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Old 05-24-2013, 05:32 PM   #435
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:02 PM   #436
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They used a stock truck.

If I go to the various places they have shuttles with my tow chain, I don't think they'll let me try. However, as soon as I get wheels on the Queen Mary, I'll tow that.

I wonder if we are all obcom? Meds please.

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SURE they did.

And my Dodge Ram Cummins will pull a five mile long loaded coal train...........up hill.

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2012 F150 Ecoboost SuperCrew with Max Tow / HD Payload, Lariat (leather, etc)

Payload: 2150 lbs

Fuel stats from last trip:
12.5 l/100km (18.8 mpg) solo - with family of 4 on board + cargo,
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14300 lbs total combined weight (CAT Scales)

The only thing I don't like is the mileage for short distances. Until the truck warms, it's very expensive to run. As my daily commute is short - this is not the most economical vehicle for the job.
Those are nice numbers. Ford doesn't show any truck close to those payload numbers on their "build your own" website, especially for a Lariat. Maybe things changed for 2013....
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:20 PM   #438
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Those are nice numbers. Ford doesn't show any truck close to those payload numbers on their "build your own" website, especially for a Lariat. Maybe things changed for 2013....
You can still build a truck with even higher payload. Lariat SuperCrew 157" WB,
4x4 Ecoboost is 2310 lb,
4x4 5-liter is 2330 lb,
4x2 Ecoboost is 2000 lb
4x2 5-liter is is 2620 lb.

2013 Ford F-150 | View Payload Specifications | Ford.com

The brochure shows a 4x2 SuperCrew Ecoboost configuration that's 2620 lb but I guess you can't build that with a Lariat.

http://www.ford.com/services/assets/...-150&year=2013
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Yea, Gene, your truck is what you said, so show us. Who knows what was done to THE truck that actually did tow the space shuttle.
Hi, SteveH; Nothing was done to the Toyota truck. The Space Shuttle was mounted on powered dollies.
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Those payload numbers are in the regular brochure. The second pearl of wisdom from Ford in another hard to find document then mentions in passing that one must deduct about 480 pounds from the 1,900 pound payload to go from a bare F-150 eco-boost to a King Ranch model because of all the gizmos and trim. Suddenly, my 1,200 pound tongue weight means I can just barely get in the truck with a tooth brush and wave good bye to the wife as I drive out of the sub-division.

Now, how is that for a visual?
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You can still build a truck with even higher payload. Lariat SuperCrew 157" WB,
4x4 Ecoboost is 2310 lb,
4x4 5-liter is 2330 lb,
4x2 Ecoboost is 2000 lb
4x2 5-liter is is 2620 lb.

2013 Ford F-150 | View Payload Specifications | Ford.com

The brochure shows a 4x2 SuperCrew Ecoboost configuration that's 2620 lb but I guess you can't build that with a Lariat.

http://www.ford.com/services/assets/...-150&year=2013
Careful with the payload listing from the website / documentation. They don't take into account the options added. When I was purchasing my truck the payload numbers listed (2600lbs+) were for the base Lariat. Adding the max tow package (extra radiator), running boards, etc resulted in the 2150lbs payload as listed on the door jam sticker.
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Those payload numbers are in the regular brochure. The second pearl of wisdom from Ford in another hard to find document then mentions in passing that one must deduct about 480 pounds from the 1,900 pound payload to go from a bare F-150 eco-boost to a King Ranch model because of all the gizmos and trim. Suddenly, my 1,200 pound tongue weight means I can just barely get in the truck with a tooth brush and wave good bye to the wife as I drive out of the sub-division.

Now, how is that for a visual?
King Ranch is a luxury car. You can't configure it for HD payload. I think it's because Ford wants to put low-capacity tires on them, but it's not on the list for me as long as they do that. Now they offer air conditioned seats in the Lariat with buckets, so who needs a KR?
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Hi, SteveH; Nothing was done to the Toyota truck. The Space Shuttle was mounted on powered dollies.
Are you saying that Toyota was not truthful in the commercial?

Actually I am surprised that it took so long for someone to mention the powered dollies. I thought it was common knowledge.
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You can't be serious. Really

Not giving very much credit to the rest of us.
I drive over 1,500-miles weekly. Just finished a 2,700-mile week. From deserted west Texas to some of the biggest cities in North America. The day I consistently see pickup drivers in 6,000-lb F150s (or other models/brands) maintain a greater following distance on the highways than those in cars with far better stopping distance and general handling performance, I'll mention it. Or that they are likelier to slow down earlier in inclement weather, on roads with bad sightlines, etc.

There is no appreciable difference to be seen in the way they are driven. It's rare enough to see that it is memorable. And accident statistics bear it out.

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Hi, SteveH; Nothing was done to the Toyota truck. The Space Shuttle was mounted on powered dollies.
Also, the Tundra was a 4x4 model and in 4 Low (multiplying the gear ratio another 2.62 in reduction), the tires where aired way down for traction and since the shuttle tow bar had NO tongue weight, they added weight in the truck bed. Hardly good conditions for real world towing. So if Gene does not have the 4x4, then HIS truck may actually not tow a shuttle.
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Also, the Tundra was a 4x4 model and in 4 Low (multiplying the gear ratio another 2.62 in reduction), the tires where aired way down for traction and since the shuttle tow bar had NO tongue weight, they added weight in the truck bed. Hardly good conditions for real world towing. So if Gene does not have the 4x4, then HIS truck may actually not tow a shuttle.
Yes I do and I'm towing a DreamLiner right now and hoping the battery doesn't catch fire.

As for the gov't investigation into the sudden deceleration of EB's, the problem may have been discussed already on one of the EB threads, but apparently there is only a service bulletin and that means the problem doesn't get solved before someone experiences the problem. A recall would alert every Ford owner to the solution and require that it is solved.

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Gene is correct in the expression of how NHTSA addresses these things. The investigation is not opened to "discover" a new problem, but to address a (usually) known issue for depth and breadth of pervasiveness. It usually ends up in a recall, either voluntary or mandated.
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Your comment is right on!
I guess the 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton association for the F150/250s comes from back when these trucks were introduced. They have evolved over the decades to much heavier duty trucks and its just old farts like me that still call an F150 a 1/2 ton truck.
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