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Old 02-27-2013, 08:17 AM   #15
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You could....I think this is one of those, "if it makes you feel good, do it" issues. What are the odds that the innerds aren't clean with more modern casting methods and component cleaning methods???? Dunno. What I do know is, if you change your own oil, use a real clean drain pan for your first change. You will note "color swirls" in the drain pan. It look almost like you dropped some drops of paint in the oil and swished it around a bit. This is extremely small metal particles.....I mean extremely small. So small they stay in suspension for a long time. It is presumably (I never saw a reason to send in for analysis) all sorts of metals, since there are all kinds in the engine.
Does this hurt the engine? Dunno, but I prefer to get them out. This presence of metallic coloration shouldn't bother you....unless you see it later in the life of the engine, after break-in.
Again, personal preference????? I'm anal retentive about this stuff...all my engines get a change after a brief time, even my small yard engines.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:45 AM   #16
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Assuming you are picking up from Colonia AS, you should be ok with or w/o oil change. It's all flat roads between Wethersfield CT and Lakewood NJ and you will be about 1500 miles total before towing anyway. Change your oil before you set out for a full camping trip ( loaded travel trailer ) later in Spring or Summer. That was the advice I took from my GMC tech when I picked up my new Denali 2500 HD few months ago prior to hauling my 2006 30 Classic to Lakewood for brake line re-call. My other advice is to make sure that you drive the truck around more locally before Monday so as to further brake in the brakes and rear axle, make sure that your brake controller is compatible with your 25 Ft. 2013 Flying Cloud and take it easy passing through Cross Bronx Expressway section of I-95 in NY( numerous huge pot holes due to snow plough / road salt activities) As a matter of preference, I will suggest you jump on I-87 (Major Deegan) as soon as you cross GWB -to 287 N - to I-95N and I-91N. You don't need bent axles despite your free warranty repairs. Good luck, best wishes at walk through with the fantastic crew at Colonia and happy streaming.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:29 PM   #17
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....depending on the placement of the oil filter. I would NOT want to be there if the oil filter is low enough in the engine where it'll begin to drain 5-6 quarts of oil while I'm trying to thread on/secure a replacement filter. VERY messy and the environmentalists would eat you alive! Then, too, there's the "issue" of draining the oil while it's still warm (rather than hot). Don't ask me why I know this....
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Old 02-27-2013, 04:04 PM   #18
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....depending on the placement of the oil filter.....
The only vehicle I recall oil filter in the pan leak all over the place problem with was the....

Take out the filter & you got a 5" hole in the pan....woooosh it's empty.

Orig Vdub too, but not so much....

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Old 02-27-2013, 04:33 PM   #19
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Hi, break-in oil and poorly machined engine parts, compared to todays standards, required an early oil change. I would not do it with any modern engine. Just do the recommended services. Old cars had a break-in procedure, new cars are, turn the key, and go.
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Old 02-27-2013, 04:33 PM   #20
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I'm old school, but why all the speculation. For $25.00 you get your engine oil changed and be done with it. Now then I spent my whole career as a trouble shooter for one of the Big 3. I've seen literally millions of engines being built, and if you don't think s--t happens on the assy. line you are sadly mistaken. Odds are nothing is wrong and you'll never know, but then again it will only happen once before you become a believer... Spending $40,000 on a vehicle and not spend $30.00 for an early oil change just doesn't make sense. I know for a fact my Ford dealer gives the first oil change free. One I took advantage of when we bought of 2012 Flex.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:00 PM   #21
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Oh my goodness. Just got a chance to check back today on my post and I can't say enough how grateful I am for all the insight. Just called and made an appointment for tomorrow morning for an oil and filter change. Dealer I bought it from was booked until next week and I pick up the Airstream on Monday. So I tried another dealer and they have me an attitude and told me it wasn't needed. So I called another dealer and they were great and heading there tomorrow.
From your responses I figured it couldn't hurt and isn't much money. So thank you everyone. I have no experience with cars. Ride bicycles everywhere possible so big trucks and towing are all new to me and I can't thank everyone enough for the insight.
And I did purchase the Airstream from Colonial and have had a wonderful experience so far. Can't wait to pick it up! Going to sleep there after the walk through and then drive home on Tuesday midday to avoid too much traffic. And I am definitely taking the 87 up into NY and then East back to CT. NYC traffic is bad enough with a small car. I couldn't imagine towing for the first time through there.
And I will be hyper aware if potholes.

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Changing the filter and topping off the oil is workable if an oil analysis program is followed. The last time I did that I got a little nervous at 25,000 miles. The lab says run
it.....I just could not do it.

On another note I wonder what fuel mileage will that 6.0 give loaded and empty
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And yes change the oil early the first time. I like to change at 3,000 then put synthetic in...oil is to cheap not to run the good stuff
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:23 PM   #24
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Changing the filter and topping off the oil is workable if an oil analysis program is followed. The last time I did that I got a little nervous at 25,000 miles. The lab says run
it.....I just could not do it.

On another note I wonder what fuel mileage will that 6.0 give loaded and empty
I am not sure what you mean by "loaded and empty". But I am going to fill it up and see what mileage I am getting on the way to pick up the Airstream tomorrow. And then again on the way home.
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:38 PM   #25
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And yes change the oil early the first time. I like to change at 3,000 then put synthetic in...oil is to cheap not to run the good stuff
Well, at 3000 mile change intervals when towing, and Delo 400 at ~$22/gallon, and a 14 quart oil capacity, we're talking

14/4*22 - $22 = $77 + filter (~$18 micro Fleetguard) = $95/oil change.

A good synthetic (Delvac 1) raises the costs to $30/gallon
Since the Powerstroke needs the antifoaming additives replenished regularly, extended change intervals are not a good idea.

I've heard nothing but good about Delo 400 in this engine (e.g. +300K miles on engines), so I'm sticking with that.

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Thomas, I am considering a truck very similar to yours and I am curious of your fuel mileage loaded ( pulling the trailer) and empty ( no trailer)

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Thomas, I am considering a truck very similar to yours and I am curious of your fuel mileage loaded ( pulling the trailer) and empty ( no trailer)

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Gotcha. I will let you know towing mileage when I return Wednesday. I will also check non towing mileage later in the week. I honestly haven't calculated it yet only had it for a few weeks. It also has 4.10 axle ratio and 6.0 V8. I will let you know the numbers soon.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:11 AM   #28
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Gotcha. I will let you know towing mileage when I return Wednesday. I will also check non towing mileage later in the week. I honestly haven't calculated it yet only had it for a few weeks. It also has 4.10 axle ratio and 6.0 V8. I will let you know the numbers soon.
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