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Old 11-09-2007, 12:08 PM   #15
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Don't forget..

........the hand spritzer at the kitchen sink !

I use almost 3 gallons in my 19' too. I don't feel like I waste any.

The stuff I got at wally-world says it's good to 50 below........ jeesh, I hope I never have to experience that kind of cold....... point is, I assume that even if you had a little water in the lines, you should still be pretty well protected if "pink or green" is coming out of your faucets.
( unless you live in some place that God had not intended man to live ! w) )

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Old 11-09-2007, 12:50 PM   #16
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Brad put in a permanent antifreeze valve as available in the winterizing kits and extended it with an additional length of pipe to extend it to within easy reach for winterizing. We simply flip the lever and unscrew the top to add the antifreeze. And he also put in a shutoff valve for the external water service. Now we can use our fresh water holding tank in cold weather conditions without worry of it freezing. The city water inlet and outside water share the same pipe so the turnoff is located before both extend to the Airstream's exterior.
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Old 11-09-2007, 02:42 PM   #17
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Even just putting anti-freeze in the lines leaves that taste for a long time. This is the first year I'm blowing the lines and leaving them empty. Hope I don't regret it.....
I'm somewhat perplexed why some folks seem to have issues with taste. I wonder if it's a matter of how you flush the stuff out in the spring. Or is it either the fact that my taste buds are dead (I don't believe they are), or my St. Louis water has some property that enhances the flush out, or do I just spend more time in the flush process?

Is it possible also that different brands of RV anti-freeze have their own unique properties? After having a rubber valve melt down in a toilet one winter, I've decided to only use what I consider a top end anti-freeze brand (prior to that I bought the cheapest stuff in the store that was rated to -50). I now only use the Prestone product. I just don't seem to have a problem flushing this stuff out when springtime comes.

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Old 11-09-2007, 03:37 PM   #18
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Gleaned from the web.......

I never knew.........

RV Anti-Freeze RV Antifreeze - Not all Antifreezes are Created EqualRV/Marine non-toxic antifreeze is probably the most misunderstood commodity in our industry today. There are currently three different varieties on the market at three very different prices.

Ethanol (alcohol) based: This type of antifreeze is most readily available in hardware stores and most RV shops it sells for approximately $3.00 Canadian a jug. However, this product is also extremely flammable and not to used around any sort of pilot flames or cigarettes. As well, this product has been known to taint certain RV plumbing systems and is only to be used with Quest or Pex plumbing lines. Furthermore, because this product is made from alcohol it works to dry out all the rubber seals readily found in your faucets and toilet. As a result we do not recommend or sell this product.

Propylene Glycol based: This product is only available at your local RV shop (and not every RV shop for that matter). It sells for approximately $6.00 Canadian a jug. Like the ethanol antifreeze, this product is non-toxic and safe for all RV plumbing. However, propylene glycol does not have the same fire safety warnings, nor the risk of tainting your RV plumbing system. Furthermore, propylene glycol is a lubricant and will actually work to extend the life of the seals in your faucets and toilets, unlike the ethanol based products. This is the only product we use on our own RVs and the only product we sell in our parts store.

Propylene/Ethanol Blend: Again this product is non-toxic and completely safe for RV plumbing systems. It will cost more than $3.00 and less than $6.00 Canadian a jug. This may seem like a good idea, however, it is unknown how much ethanol is required to taint RV plumbing lines and dry out plumbing seals. For that reason we do not recommend this product.


This is the stuff I bought at wally-world for $3.48 / gal : PEAK RV & Marine Antifreeze


This is a copy of the MSDS sheet : http://www.peakantifreeze.com/msds/m..._marine_af.pdf
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I'm somewhat perplexed why some folks seem to have issues with taste. I wonder if it's a matter of how you flush the stuff out in the spring. Or is it either the fact that my taste buds are dead (I don't believe they are), or my St. Louis water has some property that enhances the flush out, or do I just spend more time in the flush process?

Is it possible also that different brands of RV anti-freeze have their own unique properties? After having a rubber valve melt down in a toilet one winter, I've decided to only use what I consider a top end anti-freeze brand (prior to that I bought the cheapest stuff in the store that was rated to -50). I now only use the Prestone product. I just don't seem to have a problem flushing this stuff out when springtime comes.

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I flush it very thoroughly in the spring. Maybe it's because I fill my tank with our well water that is untreated. Perhaps municipal water's chlorination masks the taste. Or maybe it's psychological.
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........the hand spritzer at the kitchen sink !
It's snowing and in the very low 30's at 5:00pm here. I thought I got all the water out of all the lines last night with my compressor.

Then I read this.

I can now report to everyone that if you stick the sink sprayer in your mouth and blow really hard, you can get all the water out of it!
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Excellent !!

It's snowing and in the very low 30's at 5:00pm here. I thought I got all the water out of all the lines last night with my compressor.

Then I read this.

I can now report to everyone that if you stick the sink sprayer in your mouth and blow really hard, you can get all the water out of it!





Heh, heh, heh !

Wayne & Sam: Glad you caught that one , no extra charge !!
Happy I was able to save you some grief, you made my night !

Thanx for letting us know there is a quick fix !

Funny, as I was typing that, I was kinda being a wise guy, thinking "who would miss that " ? ( ask me how I knew ! )
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