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Old 11-27-2009, 04:24 PM   #1
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I just picked up a 67 Tradewind. 2 window panes are missing, but the good news is the hardware is there. I just took a closer look and all the windows in the coach are Plexiglass. Replacing the missing windows with plastic seems like at least a good short term storage solution, but I think Lexan would be better. BUT, would Lexan also be a good long term solution? I know glass replacement is available and costs a bit new. I have not begun to search for used.
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Before VTS came out with the replacement windows I read a few post on people using lexan as a good long term replacement. If I remember correctly there was some experimenting with heating the Lexan and putting the slight bend in it that the Corning windows have. I'll try to find it.

VTS is out of stock and I think Inland RV is only one that sells them now.
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Before VTS came out with the replacement windows I read a few post on people using lexan as a good long term replacement. If I remember correctly there was some experimenting with heating the Lexan and putting the slight bend in it that the Corning windows have. I'll try to find it.
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You know, those lexans that we used to have were a bit weak (maybe too thin?) and would bow outwards at times, letting the outside in. I'm glad that we went with glass to replace. BTW, Inland Andy has the glass for a comparatively decent price, and they include both glue and new seals.

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Found it. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f454...s-12485-2.html. Start at post #24. Thanks Rich (rluhr), For thinking outside the box.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:03 PM   #6
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Glass vs. Plexi vs. Lexan

And Inlands window glass is being made by Airstream (IIRC)! The new heat tempered glass is more shatter resistant than the old Corning glass was. My windows all came from VTS except for the two flat glass front and rear windows, which I got from a local glass company. I ordered them in heat tempered with rounded lower corners and pencil grounded edges. The two pieces cost only $100.00 + tax which was a big savings over what the two vendors wanted for them! And the best part was No Shipping Charges! You may want to go that route too! Happy Trails, Ed
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You know, those lexans that we used to have were a bit weak (maybe too thin?) and would bow outwards at times, letting the outside in. I'm glad that we went with glass to replace. BTW, Inland Andy has the glass for a comparatively decent price, and they include both glue and new seals.

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Lynn, I think that 1/8th inch thickness would be better if Lexan is used (and can be shaped for the curve) but a person would need to get to get it in mar resistant which is more expensive. Also, IIRC even Lexan has a problem with yellowing/hazing from UV exposure over time. Ed
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Found it. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f454...s-12485-2.html. Start at post #24. Thanks Rich (rluhr), For thinking outside the box.
Looks like a failed experiment in the end. Did I read this wrong?
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Looks like a failed experiment in the end. Did I read this wrong?
I read it as limited success. You need a friend with a big oven. Pizza oven might work nice....

Experiment #3 -- Success!
OK, folks, first the good news: the oven experiment worked. See picture of the test piece next to a quickie mold I put together this morning.

The test was not perfect. Gravity alone was not enough to make the Lexan lay flat against the mold. It tended to "cup" on the underside along the perpendicular axis. Look closely at the picture of the finished piece and you'll see it is not evenly bent.

This problem will be rectified by putting a soft weight atop the Lexan as it is heated. I am thinking about a piece of paper topped by a 2-lb bean bag. In this experiment, I simply opened the oven and pressed down on the Lexan (with oven mits on!) for a few seconds to help it along.

Now the bad news: Doing this to make an actual window requires two things you may not have: (1) a real glass window to use as a template for the mold; (2) an oven big enough to fit it. My fairly large Thermador can only accomodate a 16x24" piece, which is not enough for even the smallest window in the late 60's era: 17x20.5"

Next step is to finish the "production mold" and start searching for a commercial oven I can use to make pieces in all three sizes needed: 17x20.5, 29x20.5, and 39x20.5.
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You weren't, perhaps, towing your new trailer through New Mexico this last Friday were you?

We took a road trip to El Paso, TX to pick up a puppy and saw an old airstream with the windows missing being towed down I-25 near Glorieta. We didn't have our Airstream with us, but I was wishing I could signal to the owner of the one being towed.

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You weren't, perhaps, towing your new trailer through New Mexico this last Friday were you?
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I knew it!! When we passed you I thought you looked familiar (we met at the Vintage Rally in Salida).

I wish I would have been towing my Airstream so we could have recognized each other.

When we passed I commented that I thought it was you....you just never know when we Airstreamers are going to meet up
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I wish I would have been towing my Airstream so we could have recognized each other.

When we passed I commented that I thought it was you....you just never know when we Airstreamers are going to meet up
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Congratulations on the new trailer! What is the condition of the inside?
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