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04-16-2017, 05:25 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Royal Oak
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 32
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Are WeBoost worth the money?
We frequently travel to places where our cell signal is 1-2 bars. Since we have unlimited mobile data, we use our cell for internet and working remote.
Looking at what's out there, it appears the most popular 4G signal boosters are from WeBoost. However, they certainly are proud of them!
Are they worth the money?
We are considering the Drive 4G-M | 470108 or RV 4G | 470201. Any recommendations?
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Royal Oak, MI
WBCCI #: 8356 (the same number my grandparents had from 1963 to 1981)
AIR #: 104322
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Henry - 2013 F150 Super Crew XLT w/ HD Towing
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11-22-2017, 05:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 31' Classic
Garner,
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,031
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search youtube as well.. there are many full time rv'ers that use the we boost system with good success. they are not all the expensive if you have a mifi and need external antenna to help with signal.
here is a real popular model. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Wilson and we boost are the same company.
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Carl, Raleigh NC
2-24-16 got a 2005 Classic 31D 460 watts solar, lithium 230 AH, 16" LT's, pulled by:
2003 F-250 SD, CC, 7.3L PowerStroke
WBCCI#1691, Piedmont Airstream Club, Unit #161, Region #3
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11-22-2017, 05:52 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 27' FB Eddie Bauer
Coldwater
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 166
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So what I wonder about these and maybe folks here can help is this. All those videos talk about how “I had 1 bar and now with weboost I have 3 or 4 bars” I don’t recall any of the videos I’ve watched saying “I pulled in to my camp and had zero bars on my phone, turned on the weboost and got service” maybe this happens but they never seem to mention it. Also, I’ve heard them say talk about data being faster but none of them have said they ran a speed tester before and after and reported the difference.
Why this is a question for me is that even at Home and in the general area of things I routinely have only one bar and my phone seems to work just fine. So my question: if you have one bar you have service so what is the weboost really providing? What am I missing here?
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11-22-2017, 05:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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Weboost do boost the signal but doesn't mean the data rate is any better. You are still subject to the local tower and it depends on your carrier. Get the 4GX RV package.
Kelvin
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2008 Classic 25fb "Silver Mistress"
2015 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins. Crew Cab, 4x4, Silver
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11-22-2017, 06:01 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2009 34' Classic
Lake Worth Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 387
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bbandeddie
So what I wonder about these and maybe folks here can help is this. All those videos talk about how “I had 1 bar and now with weboost I have 3 or 4 bars” I don’t recall any of the videos I’ve watched saying “I pulled in to my camp and had zero bars on my phone, turned on the weboost and got service” maybe this happens but they never seem to mention it.
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It boosts the signal. To boost a signal, there has to be a signal. If you are in a location with no signal, you will not magically get a signal with your WeBoost cell booster.
Jim
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WBCCI 1433
🌴 Palm Beach County, FL 🌴
Silver Meteor - 2009 Airstream Classic Limited 34
2016 RAM 2500 Laramie Crew Cab 4x4, Cummins TurboDiesel
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11-22-2017, 06:08 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 27' FB Eddie Bauer
Coldwater
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 166
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirstreamJim
It boosts the signal. To boost a signal, there has to be a signal. If you are in a location with no signal, you will not magically get a signal with your WeBoost cell booster.
Jim
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Okay. So if the phone has zero bars the weboost doesn’t find anything. My phone seems to work just fine with 1 bar so what benefit do I get by installing a weboost? Just the comfort of seeing more bars?
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11-22-2017, 06:17 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,746
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bbandeddie
Okay. So if the phone has zero bars the weboost doesn’t find anything. My phone seems to work just fine with 1 bar so what benefit do I get by installing a weboost? Just the comfort of seeing more bars?
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Hi
Your phone stops dropping words and no longer sounds like you are talking on a pair of tin cans connected by string. Your data rate goes from 17.23 Kbps to 1.9 Mbps.
Yes, a lot depends on exactly *what* the situation really is. If your phone only has three bars, then the steps are a bit different than on a phone with six bars. There is no definition of what "one bar" really means ....
Bob
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11-22-2017, 06:20 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 27' FB Eddie Bauer
Coldwater
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 166
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Thanks Bob. That was sort of the performance comparison I havent seen or heard anywhere yet.
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11-22-2017, 07:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,311
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I have a weboost in my vehicle that I transfer to the AS. The vehicle one is different than one for say a house. The vehicle weboost needs the phone within a few feet. It doesn’t work well when you use your phone as a modem unless your phone is very close to the interior antenna. Otherwise it does make using your phone in the AS easier and does improve data on the phone. If you want really good reception in your AS you need to get the one for say a house. That interior antenna has a larger signal strength. But then that means 2 units and that’s not cheap (about $900 just for the units). One thing I did was buy a suction cup that I put on the outside when I am parked. That way I didn’t have to drill holes in the AS.
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11-22-2017, 10:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2022 25' Flying Cloud
NCR
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,108
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yes , get a we boost
i makes the most difference in fringe areas
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11-22-2017, 11:18 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,320
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We installed a Drive 4G-M and would never consider heading out into the wild without one. Many times we were able to get a signal on Verizon when our fellow campers were getting nowhere. It’s a safety thing for us, if there were an emergency it could make all the difference.
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11-23-2017, 05:16 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 27' International
Orland Park
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 81
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Yes they work. On again off again one bar becomes solid two or three bars in our experience.
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11-23-2017, 05:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1959 26' Overlander
Western
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,468
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Traveling through the backroads of West Texas, we had no service. Set up the WeBoost in the truck and we had 2 bars -- enough to stream audio.
I had a little difficulty inside the Airstream. I set the antenna up at the top of a non-conductive pole and wasn't getting the amplification I wanted. Customer Service recommend at least a 4" diameter ground plane for best results. (A ground plane is a flat surface that conducts electricity). I screwed the biggest fender washer I could find to the top of the pole and sat the antenna on top of it -- that worked. It's smaller than recommended and I'll change it to something larger if necessary.
I carry a Trucker's antenna just in case, but have never needed it.
Happy Thanksgiving.
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11-23-2017, 06:48 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,746
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Hi
Ok, let's back off a bit and look at the physics.
The WeBoost amplifies cell signals. It does it on exactly the same frequency into the device as out of the device. If you get to much gain (amplification) you get feedback and the device oscillates. That's just physics. It is no different than a mic and a speaker. Crank up the gain on the amp and you get a yowl.
Put a great big signal out inside the trailer and it will "leak" back to your main antenna. The system will oscillate. You will not get any performance at all. Since your main antenna is right on top of the trailer, it's only a few feet away from the internal device.
The net result is that you need to get close to the WeBoost internal antenna. In an RV setup, there really is no choice. The number of bars you get go up as you get very close. Since you don't always *need* the WeBoost, you can get faked about what's going on ....
Bob
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11-23-2017, 07:23 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Southwestern Ontario
, Ontario Canada
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 307
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bbandeddie
Thanks Bob. That was sort of the performance comparison I havent seen or heard anywhere yet.
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bbandeddie, Check the Youtube video Kelvin posted above it shows some actual experience and quantifies it for that situation.
Keep in mind if you have one bar at your home or outside, the Airstream inside signal will be reduced because the Airstream acts like a Faraday cage and blocks the cell signal unlike fiberglass trailers.
One bar may work on a conversation but in my experience one bar means some dropped words, unclear conversations and dropped calls. If you want to use it to browse the web it may not work - and forget about streaming video it will be too frustrating to watch it stopping etc.
If you are not sure if you need a cell booster check your destinations' RV reviews, Trip Advisor or other reviews for your specific carrier signal issues. If you are mainly travelling to major centers you may not need one at all if there are nearby towers. We go for State parks and many have poor signals. If you are going to use your Canadian cell provider know which provider they trade with in that region. We used our Bell service in previous years and found they use T mobile and AT&T mainly. Verizon has the best overall cell service in the US (especially in the West) but I am not sure there is a Canadian provider that uses Verizon any more.
This year we are going for a US cell provider and picked AT&T because we can use our unlocked Bell phones which cannot be used on Verizon. We are installing a Weboost mobile 4g-x with an omni antenna so we will have web access in hopefully all our destinations in south Florida this year.
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11-24-2017, 08:26 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,746
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Hi
If you are deep in the woods, keep in mind that all your "stuff" (TV and cell) may be affected by heavy rain. When all those trees get soaking wet, they block signals.
The whole "which provider" thing is a lottery here in the US. In general AT&T does better in the east and Verizon does better in the west. There are numerous exceptions to that rule. There is no one provider that alway is best.
Bob
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