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Old 05-09-2008, 06:56 PM   #281
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This tire disintegrated in the storage yard, on the tongue of the trailer. It was in rotation on the Globetrotter, but separated while it was it's turn to act as a spare.
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:33 PM   #282
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uwe...

can't make out the code on the red wheel...

but the scuff guard tells me it's newer than 2006.

and the date code should be 4 digits, 2 for weekoftheyear and last 2 for year ...

so for example 1407 would be a tire made in april 2007.

on the rusty wheel in your 2nd post i see a 3 digit code ending in 4, looks like 124...

so that is a MARCH 1994 birth-day.... so when were those pix taken ??

the coding changed in 2000? as i recall.

before y2k 3 digits; after y2k 4 digits.

the first 4 LETTERS after the dot stamp are the city/plant codes, so IF we could read them clearly...

there is a lookup table for that info too....

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Old 05-09-2008, 09:55 PM   #283
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MK --> THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER COMPANY --> UNION CITY --> TENESSEE --> US
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:11 PM   #284
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uwe...

can't make out the code on the red wheel...

but the scuff guard tells me it's newer than 2006.

and the date code should be 4 digits, 2 for weekoftheyear and last 2 for year ...

so for example 1407 would be a tire made in april 2007.

on the rusty wheel in your 2nd post i see a 3 digit code ending in 4, looks like 124...

so that is a MARCH 1994 birth-day.... so when were those pix taken ??

the coding changed in 2000? as i recall.

before y2k 3 digits; after y2k 4 digits.

the first 4 LETTERS after the dot stamp are the city/plant codes, so IF we could read them clearly...

there is a lookup table for that info too....

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the pictures were taken yesterday.

I have since found more date codes on teh tires that I have access to righ tnow.
My "rescue wheel set" is from 2000, all around the 30th week.
The tires on the red wheels are late 2007's.
The rusty wheel is a code 124, I just bought that trailer, but doubt that Marathons would live that long...wait, they don't that's the code from the exploded spare...no wonder then that it just let go while sitting idle.
I beter check the other two tires on the GLobetrotter. One of htem has a scuff guard, but it's definitely odler than 2006.
The tires on the red wheels are chinese Marathins, so far the best looking ones, with a distinct different feel to the rubber. My ohter Marathins feel sort of spongy, the Chinese ones feel more like a real rubber tire when handled.
Just impressions, folks. I am not a tire expert...
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...The tires on the red wheels are chinese Marathins, so far the best looking ones, with a distinct different feel to the rubber...
yep i agree, that's my impression too.

post #71 here has a 2007 chinese tire on the left and a 2005 canadian tire on the right...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ons-27999.html

and all through that thread the canadian tires look inferior compared to the chinese version.

the service life (for me) with the canadian tires was good, and so far the chinese tires are too.

the newer tires look MUCH better, with firmer rubber and fewer sidewall lumps and undulations...

i've got 8 of the chinese gyms now and only one canadian (2005) tire, which i plan to trade-in next week on another new one.

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Old 05-10-2008, 12:21 AM   #287
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yep i agree, that's my impression too.

post #71 here has a 2007 chinese tire on the left and a 2005 canadian tire on the right...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ons-27999.html

and all through that thread the canadian tires look inferior compared to the chinese version.

the service life (for me) with the canadian tires was good, and so far the chinese tires are too.

the newer tires look MUCH better, with firmer rubber and fewer sidewall lumps and undulations...

i've got 8 of the chinese gyms now and only one canadian (2005) tire, which i plan to trade-in next week on another new one.

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Your avatar doesn't show which trailer( s) you have, and/or where you reside. This might be by choice, but it would make it easier to understand your usually well researched and excellent posts....
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Old 05-10-2008, 12:28 AM   #288
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...This might be by choice...
it is.

-1 triple axle unit rolling somewhere in the lower 48, seldom east of the mississippi...

i travel with 2 spares for a total of 8 with another one at home, just in case.

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...The SE sits outside...Comments on that?...
my unit (05) is outside 24/7 but seldom just sits.

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Old 05-10-2008, 12:28 AM   #289
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I think I've got one of each of the Marathons. ( or should we call them marathins)
So far the Chinese ones look like they are made very well.

Today, I borrowed a clients mag wheel from an 06 Safari 25 SE to see if it would fit over the Dexter disc brakes ( which it did, btw.)
The tire had a date code of mid 06, and started to show fissure cracks in the tread and down towards where the tread meets the sidewall.
The tires on my Overlander have a date code of 04, and look perfect, compared to the Safari SE tire.
My trailer is stored indoors, always was. The SE sits outside.
Comments on that?

btw., I have had nothing but excellent luck so far with Marathons. I emphasize with all the members that have lost tires and sustained damage, though, and I am fearful that one of the damn tires will come apart and wreck my precious Overlander. But, I heard of more new tires coming apart than well used older ones. I think I am going to continue uaing the Marathons on the Overlander with great care, and inspect them closely before and during every trip. About all one can do, I guess.
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I also strongly believe that it is total bs that in 2008 we have to worry about tires falling apart. It's not like tires were just invented yesterday. We're being screwed big time by GoodYear.
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Hi, 2air lives in a 34' Classic Airstream in Jackson Center, Ohio. [Top Secret] That's my best guess.
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very funny bob, what a nightmare for the folks in j/c if this were true...

my unit has had several weeks of service at the mother ship...

100+ issues fixed under warranty, and not the tires.

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...It's not like tires were just invented yesterday. We're being screwed big time by GoodYear.
perhaps, but what other MAJOR brand is offering us another choice (not bridgestone, michelin or continental) ?

i'm no g-y fan (and don't use their tires on ANY other vehicles) but when it comes to ST tires, there aren't many options...

maxxis might be a good choice, but i like the fact that g-y shops are everywhere....

one of my concerns with folks going to LT tires is the tire profile.

st tires are rounded, which is good for mileage, heat and pivoting...

the sort of turning we do when backing up a double or triple axle.

most of the LT selections have a squarer profile/shoulder; i think this is undesirable for trailering.

the 'squarer shoulder tire' will generate more heat, poorer fuel economy and the tread is MORE LIKELY to move/roll when backing/turning...

a rounded profile tire (properly inflated) tolerates this sort of twisting and squirming better.

that is ONE of the reasons st tires exist, although there isn't much innovation in the st tire segment.

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