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02-28-2016, 11:57 AM
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2014 20' Flying Cloud
Long Island
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Thanks doug.
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09-08-2016, 06:12 AM
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2014 20' Flying Cloud
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Originally Posted by Snaken49
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After seeing the damage caused by GYM failures posted in this forum I inspected mine and found belt separation flat spots on 2 out 4 tires. The symptoms were confirmed by Discount Tire and other online forums.
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Thanks for this thread and your observations. Did you happen to note the date of manufacture on your GYM tires?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...160811155954:s
One of the posters in the 20-footer thread just had a blow out on his brand new (to him) 2014 FC20, and we are comparing notes so that I can assess whether our tires are possibly from the same time period as his.
Thanks,
Peter
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09-09-2016, 03:27 AM
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2010 28' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
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Originally Posted by OTRA15
Thanks for this thread and your observations. Did you happen to note the date of manufacture on your GYM tires?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...160811155954:s
One of the posters in the 20-footer thread just had a blow out on his brand new (to him) 2014 FC20, and we are comparing notes so that I can assess whether our tires are possibly from the same time period as his.
Thanks,
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Pete,
My GYM were made in 2010 and replaced on 2013. Please check my original post with pictures of what tread separation looks like.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ar-105296.html
Best! joe
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09-09-2016, 04:45 AM
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2014 20' Flying Cloud
Long Island
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Thanks Joe, our GYM tires are now 3 years old, so new tires went to the top of the list. Any experience with Nokians per this thread?
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...15-156339.html
We would like to stay with 15" but Michelin M&S inventory in load range E may be limited, due to rollout of new Defender series which are mainly 16" it appears.
Thanks
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09-09-2016, 04:54 AM
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2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
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Image that... the Michelin LTX M/S tires have 62 complaints. How could you even put those on your Airstream? Crazy.
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Yes, currently the tires are M/S 2 and note that the issue was on LTX and M/S versions from 2010-2012 only.
One thing about tires is that there are several iterations. I have M/S 2 LTX Load E metric tires on my trailer but my truck came with M/S 2 LTX R or passenger rated tires according to the michelin charts- no load range E on those!
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09-09-2016, 08:40 AM
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I'll admit I only read two pages deep in the report but if my count is accurate the problems all involve 16" tires on multiple axle trailers. Does that say anything for GYM used on "single axle" trailers? Is "tire scrub" resulting from tight turns playing a role here?
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09-09-2016, 09:52 AM
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Which report?
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09-09-2016, 11:00 PM
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2016 22' Sport
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avionstream
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This report:
GOODYEAR MARATHON | Safercar | National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)
For additional info see the first post on this thread.
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09-10-2016, 04:39 AM
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2014 20' Flying Cloud
Long Island
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09-10-2016, 05:15 AM
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Thanks
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10-25-2016, 08:14 AM
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2014 20' Flying Cloud
Long Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ahillring
No tires should separate like this! Shame on Airstream for continuing to put these on their trailers.
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Welcome to the forum! I have taken the liberty of replying on this GYM Failure thread, in addition to on the 20-footer thread which is a fairly specialized thread focused on a particular model. I agree with your assessment and plan to upgrade soon.
Thanks for the clear photo! Could you tell us about how the blow-out occurred, and whether you had any loss-of-control issues while towing maybe?
Also do you know the DOT date of mfg. stamped on the tire? It is a 4-digit number in a small oval showing the week ( __ of 52) and the year.
Thanks,
Peter
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10-25-2016, 08:44 PM
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2001 25' Safari
Napoleonville
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Tires
Michelin doesn't make a 15'' trailer tire. Goodyear Marathons are trailer tires. Trailer tires are made to scrub and sway among other things. The new best trailer tire I am hearing about is a Pro something.
I have run Marathons for almost 20 years now. I had 2 blowouts that were 10 years old and 1 road hazard puncture, a bolt or spike that ruined the tire.
I just bought 2 Marathons to replace 2 that were just worn out, 7 and 8 years old, with small visible cracking. I'm running them at 55-56 lbs psi and 62-63 mph.
Just my 2 cents.
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10-26-2016, 10:36 AM
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2013 31' Classic
billings
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Originally Posted by CapriRacer
Just to put some numbers into this:
If 99 failures were reported over a 15 year timespan, and I assume a failure rate of 0.1% (1 out of 1,000, which was at one time was an acceptable rate), then Goodyear produced 6,600 tires a year - and that sounds EXTREMELY low. My guess is that Goodyear is producing more like 100,000 of these a year - which equates to a failure rate of 0.007%, 1 out of 15,000. That may be why no action has taken place.
And don't forget that trailer manufacturers do NOT see tire issues as their problem.
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And we don't know how many curbs or big chuck holes these tires have hit,or have been run on low air pressure then run 70 mph on a 100 degree day.....just saying..
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10-28-2016, 11:23 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
2001 25' Safari
Napoleonville
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Now I see MADE IN CHINA on my new Marathons. I'll be keeping a close eye on them.
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