Goodyear Marathon Blow out

[Julie-Bob]

I had an blowout on 05-27-14 with Goodyear Marathon with only about 9,000 miles and about 4 1/2 years old, cover when parked. I am looking in to replacing all Goodyear tires with Carlisle. Just Google Goodyear Marathon blowout and you will not believe how many you find. I always checked tire pressure before driving, always set at 65 psi per the book. Trailer is about 2000 under weight. The temp was about 99f driving 65 mph, what the problem?????

[Julie-Bob]

Goodyear recalls 41,000 Wrangler Silent Armor tires | Reuters
www.reuters.com/.../us-goodyear-recall-idUSTRE81P00820120226 ‎

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Feb 25, 2012 ... (Reuters) - Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co said Saturday it would recall about
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condition or have suffered impact damage," Goodyear said in a statement.

[Rich W]

Originally Posted by Julie-Bob

I had an blowout on 05-27-14 with Goodyear Marathon with only about 9,000 miles and about 4 1/2 years old, cover when parked. I am looking in to replacing all Goodyear tires with Carlisle. Just Google Goodyear Marathon blowout and you will not believe how many you find. I always checked tire pressure before driving, always set at 65 psi per the book. Trailer is about 2000 under weight. The temp was about 99f driving 65 mph, what the problem?????

Did you Google Carlisle trailer tire blowouts? There are lots of those too. I ran Carlisles on my boat trailer and they were good for about 2 seasons then they'd separate. I sold that boat and the new one came with Marathons. I had the originals on there about 10 years, no problems, then one blew and the other didn't look too good so I replaced it. I'm on season 3 with those. My used AS came with 5 2-year old Marathons. They all seem to be in good shape and I keep them properly inflated, don't let them sit long in one spot, don't overload them or exceed their rating of 65 mph. Time will tell.

I think trailer tires of any brand will have problems. People tend to park them for long periods, run them under inflated (causing them to overheat), run faster than their ratings, overload them, etc. etc. But I have to say, having 3 blowouts on the same trip... wow! That would certainly cause me to doubt that brand too. I will certainly monitor all the tires at each stop, looking for any unusual signs of fatigue.

[daveswenson]

Originally Posted by Julie-Bob

I had an blowout on 05-27-14 with Goodyear Marathon with only about 9,000 miles and about 4 1/2 years old, cover when parked. I am looking in to replacing all Goodyear tires with Carlisle. Just Google Goodyear Marathon blowout and you will not believe how many you find. I always checked tire pressure before driving, always set at 65 psi per the book. Trailer is about 2000 under weight. The temp was about 99f driving 65 mph, what the problem?????

What is the date code on your GYM's? 4-5 years seems to be when you should be replacing tires.

This article from Goodyear points out several risk factors for tire aging that you seem to have. i.e. Low mileage, and hot weather.
http://www.goodyearrvtires.com/tire-...uidelines.aspx

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I'm not trying to sound snarky here, but replacing one junky ST tire with yet another junky ST tire from a different company does not sound logical to me.
But then, this is just "opinion" from me, so take it for what it's worth.

[Julie-Bob]

Today I have read so much on tires, I did not know that ST (special Trailer) tires had a max speed limit to them. It would be nice and a lot safer if trailer and tire sellmen, would take the time to inform the buyer that trailer tires are NOT to go over 65 mph. I wonder how many RV's know that ST trailer have a max speed? WOW I have had my eyes open today. Also spoke with a Highway Policeman about highway temps, in AZ 105f standing temp the black top pavement can be 160f. No wonder we see what is left of tires all over the highway. Yes, it looks like one tire is as good as the other one. Good tire manitenance. 1. Check pressure before moving. 2. Keep at or below max speed for your set of tires. 3. Replace ever 3 to 4 1/2 years. 4. Keep sun off. 5 Never over load trailer. 6. Weight each trailer tire after loading.

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Originally Posted by Julie-Bob

Today I have read so much on tires, I did not know that ST (special Trailer) tires had a max speed limit to them. It would be nice and a lot safer if trailer and tire sellmen, would take the time to inform the buyer that trailer tires are NOT to go over 65 mph. I wonder how many RV's know that ST trailer have a max speed? WOW I have had my eyes open today. Also spoke with a Highway Policeman about highway temps, in AZ 105f standing temp the black top pavement can be 160f. No wonder we see what is left of tires all over the highway. Yes, it looks like one tire is as good as the other one. Good tire manitenance. 1. Check pressure before moving. 2. Keep at or below max speed for your set of tires. 3. Replace ever 3 to 4 1/2 years. 4. Keep sun off. 5 Never over load trailer. 6. Weight each trailer tire after loading.

I agree with you say there....except, "one tire is as good as another one".

I don't agree with that. At all.

[Bill M.]

There is such a thing as going from bad to worse. I think the GYM are probably much better than most of the other ST tires out there. Keep an open mind and explore all your options. One tire is not as good as another. Diligence will not always protect against a defective tire.

[AtomicNo13]

I used Hercules power STR in the 15" e load size. Wore them out completely! No blowouts with them. Made in Tiawan.

[Phoenix]

Suggested reading for those experiencing their first tire failure:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ml#post1186770

Also, if you recently replaced the tires on your Airstream (or are doing it now), and have not completed the "Tire Failure Poll", your input would be appreciated:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...oll-76867.html

Thanks

[switz]

I started reading the Airstream forum months before I picked up our first trailer (2013 25FB International Serenity) and read all the negative press on the GoodYear ST tires that are installed by Airstream. When I got to the storage unit, I switched to the 15" Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires along with Centramatic wheel balancers.

As soon as the new trailer (2014 Classic model 30) got off the dealer's lot, I switched out the GoodYear tires and wheels for the 16" Michelin LT225/75R16/E LTX M/S2 tires and SenDel wheels. I also installed Centramatic wheel balancers and a six channel Dill TPMS system.

The tire issues became a much lower concern with Michelin tires. I have used Michelin tires on all my vehicles for over 48 years. Never had a blowout in all these years.

[perryg114]

If they are 15 inch tires put on Michelin 235/75-XL15 car/SUV tires. If you are running 16" tires then you can run light truck tires. Many of us have been using the 235/75-15 tires and I have not heard anything bad about them. I actually run the BF Goodrich version of them.

Perry

[Range Mark]

Switz,

I have a 2011 31' CL and have strongly considered the Michelin 235/75/15 based on what Andy has mentioned on several occasions. At this point I'm torn between the 15 and 16 inch Mich, how are your 15 in Michelins performing on your 30' CL.

[NJtoNC]

i had carlisles and had a trailer damaging blow out with less than 10,000 mi and just a month over 2 yrs (2 yr warranty!) i went with the 15" Michelin LTX 235/75R15 XL's and would again. or an LT. anything but a ST.

[Jackcat2]

We replaced the 4 yr old GYM with Carlisle's (E) after a blowout a year ago on the Classic we had just purchased. We have travelled 18,000 miles since w/o incident. Run 80 lbs cold, don't overload, 62 mph max. Also, if one hAs a two or three axle trailer, if not level when towing weight is transferred to one of the axles. front too high, weight transferred somewhat to the rearmost axles/ tires, for example, and may co tribute to overloading the rear axles tires.

[Ahab]

Originally Posted by Julie-Bob

I had an blowout on 05-27-14 with Goodyear Marathon with only about 9,000 miles and about 4 1/2 years old, cover when parked. I am looking in to replacing all Goodyear tires with Carlisle. Just Google Goodyear Marathon blowout and you will not believe how many you find. I always checked tire pressure before driving, always set at 65 psi per the book. Trailer is about 2000 under weight. The temp was about 99f driving 65 mph, what the problem?????

I too had the Marathon blow out just over 4 yrs old. As you did I went with the Carlisle because that was recommended by my local DT. They said Carlisle built a new plant devoted to trailer tires used in the southwest and optimized for high temperatures. Have had them for over a year now and they are doing fine. I've talked to a number of people at our rally's who have them on their units and they all love them.

[cwf]

Did you report to NHTSA? Please do, so there is hope to have some 'leverage' on the manufacturer.. if the tires are bad, tracking should show up.

I upgraded to LT's

[J. Morgan]

Sometimes tires just blow, especially if a tire might have EVER been run low.

That said it has been many years since I have been stuck on the side of the road with a tire failure. Perhaps 20 years or more.....

[El Gitano]

My experience with the Marathons were good. We bought a 19" Winick last June that had been stored in a wharehouse since 2007. It had maybe 1k miles on them. They looked brand new. I changed them this April to Carlisles because it was convenient. One Maraton had some odd ware from a bad balance job. But that was after I put over 20k miles on them including a trip up the Alaskan highway and on to Homer and back. I've read all the horror stories but that's just not our experience. I keep them properly inflated and try to drive 60mph or lower. Some times the Alcan demands 15mph or less - common sence. You just never know what the roads going to throw at you. Take it easy and don't rush it. My two cents worth.

[switz]

When one pushes the weight numbers, the 25' Flying Cloud and 25' International models with a GVW of 7,300 are well within the weight capability of the Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires. The 27' models of these two trim lines have a GVW of 7,600 pounds and the load margin is reduced and could be doable. I had these tires on our 25FB and liked the ride and bigger road tire foot print on the road.

Check my "Images" below my name and see the Good Year Marathon takeoff beside both the 15" and, later, the 16" Michelin tires.

For the best decision making, one needs to weigh each wheel on the trailer when loaded. My experience, and others I have talked to, is the the right rear (curb side) tire tends to have several hundred more pounds of load that the other three. Some folks reported replacing that specific tire location rubber more often than the other three tires.

I have no experience with the tri-axle Airstreams and their load per tire. The bigger concern, in my opinion, is the sideways scrubbing action on the tires in a turn and the Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL sidewalls were definitely not designed for that type of stress.

I think on a dual axle Airstream around 7,500 pounds GVW these Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires will work well.

Airstream may release a 25' Classic later in the 2015 model year, but the GVW will likely be too high for the Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires. The 2014 27FB Classic had a GVW of 9,000 pounds while the 31' models of the Flying Cloud and International have a GVW of 8,800 pounds. There is just not enough load capacity in the 15" Michelins for that much GVW.

Our current Classic has a GVW of 10,000 pounds and the four Good Years together had a load capacity of 10,160 pounds and are speed limited on their sidewall to 65mph. It was logical to go to the Michelin LT225/75R16/E LTX M/S2 for the extra load capacity and no speed restriction. Plus they are the factory approved tire (optional) on both of the Eddie Bauer models.

The factory will retrofit the Michelin LT225/75R16/E LTX tires and SenDel T03-66655T wheels to any ordered 25' or longer trailer that has 15" wheels (or at Jackson Center if you drop by) and they are standard on the 2015 31' Classic.