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Old 02-20-2011, 03:02 PM   #15
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Good luck, I hope it goes smoothly. One of the reasons I went with Dexter was because the Caravel required fabricating a mounting plate, and welding on the tabs for the shocks. Since I couldn't do that work, I had a local RV shop do it, and they did the measurements and ordered the Dexter axle for me. They ended up spending more time on the mounting plates than they charged me for, but I think they did a good job, at least we've had no trouble since.
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:27 PM   #16
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thanks stephanie btw...good lookin' camper ya got der
i hope it goes smoothly too. the way i understand it all i will have to do to make the axis work is drill a few holes....we'll see.
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:37 PM   #17
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Good luck, I hope it goes smoothly. One of the reasons I went with Dexter was because the Caravel required fabricating a mounting plate, and welding on the tabs for the shocks. Since I couldn't do that work, I had a local RV shop do it, and they did the measurements and ordered the Dexter axle for me. They ended up spending more time on the mounting plates than they charged me for, but I think they did a good job, at least we've had no trouble since.
What was wrong with the original mounting plates? The axles I supply fit right into the original plates & don't require any welding. Even the shock brackets are welded on at the factory. The average DIY person is able to install these axles.
On pre 61 trailers built with leaf spring axles, I supply a drawing of the mounting plate to simplify the installation, however I will be offering production made plates shortly so it'll be easy for 50's era trailer owners to upgrade to the wonders of independant suspension. They'll be saving about 100 lbs too.
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:48 PM   #18
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What was wrong with the original mounting plates?
No idea, it was so long ago. Something specific to the Caravels, is all I remember. That's nice there's an easier way to do it now. Putting in that axle made a HUGE difference in how it towed, and how much stuff got tossed around inside during a trip. We used to open the door after a tow and it looked like a tornado hit it. Now we open it up and the pillows aren't even out of place
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No idea, it was so long ago. Something specific to the Caravels, is all I remember. That's nice there's an easier way to do it now. Putting in that axle made a HUGE difference in how it towed, and how much stuff got tossed around inside during a trip. We used to open the door after a tow and it looked like a tornado hit it. Now we open it up and the pillows aren't even out of place
Interesting. I had one client who had towed locally for several years with the original axle, however they were planning on taking an extended trip so I installed a new axle for them. They emailed me part way through the trip saying it was amazing the difference they noticed. Apparently they forgot a cup of coffee on the counter one morning & 100 miles later, it was still on the counter when they stopped for a pee break. I'm not sure if that'll happen to everyone but that's pretty remarkable.......................plus all they had done was have the wheels dynamically balanced at a local garage before they left.
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well the new axle from axis arrived today and everything went pretty much just like colin said it would...tomorrow i'll weld a new bolt on where i busted the old one off (even after soaking everything for about a month with penetrating oil) slap the wheels back on her then go for a spin to get the brakes broke in and adjusted....and whoooo hoooo i'm a happy camper!! thank you colin
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is that the stud that holds the shock that broke? That happens a lot. Make sure you cut a heavy shoulder to accept the weld or it will just snap off again.

Did they bolt right in or did you have to alter the holes to bolt it on?

I have a 66 here needing new axles and am curious if they actually bolt right in or if they need a little help to make that happen.
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is that the stud that holds the shock that broke? That happens a lot. Make sure you cut a heavy shoulder to accept the weld or it will just snap off again.

Did they bolt right in or did you have to alter the holes to bolt it on?

I have a 66 here needing new axles and am curious if they actually bolt right in or if they need a little help to make that happen.
Yep. Sheared the stud myself as well. Very frustrating. I had soaked it in PB, as well as the bolts on the axle frame. Those bolts wouldn't move no matter what, so I'm just cutting them off. As for the shock mounts on the AS itself, it looks like i'll be towing it somewhere to have all new mounts welded on unless I can find a welding buddy. (the one tool I don't own is a welder - but it might be on the list.)
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Not everyone has them, but I happened to have a bunch of bee hive boxes that were empty. I just stacked them up under the axles to support them as I was removing em. I would guess that well place bricks or jack stands would work as well.
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is that the stud that holds the shock that broke? That happens a lot. Make sure you cut a heavy shoulder to accept the weld or it will just snap off again.

Did they bolt right in or did you have to alter the holes to bolt it on?

I have a 66 here needing new axles and am curious if they actually bolt right in or if they need a little help to make that happen.


yes that was the stud that held the shock. i'm going to grind the whole thing off then try to weld a bolt on there? we'll see what happens i borrowed a welder from a friend, i've never done any welding before but how are you going to learn if you don't try. right?

i had to drill four new holes in order to bolt the new axle on. colin told me i would have to do this, so it didn't come as a surprise. the one thing i had to do that i wasn't aware of was i had to get the axle in place then mark the hole then drop the axle back out of the way so i could get a good straight shot at a couple of the holes (see pic) but really not that big of a deal considering the $$$ saved...all in all it went really smooth. no big deal. the only thing colin didn't warn me about, was the fact that the whole process would have been alot easier if i was capable of bench pressing 250 lbs!!! lol...i'm a little stiff today from rolling around under that thing all day yesterday
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Not everyone has them, but I happened to have a bunch of bee hive boxes that were empty. I just stacked them up under the axles to support them as I was removing em. I would guess that well place bricks or jack stands would work as well.
i hear ya! i had a bunch of 2x6 blocks, jack stands, a floor jack and a bottle jack. it all worked fine. alot like the proverbial monkey and the football when it came to dragging the old axle out and the new one in. but, if you know all the right words you can accomplish anything is what i always say! a concrete floor would have helped too, i'm sure.
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well i got 'er done! borrowed a welder from a friend...i was able to make it stick we'll see if it stays stuck. i probably shouldn't share pics of my very first attempt at welding with the group...but what the hell!
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